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Scotty
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13 hours ago, Prof_Sai said:But Jay can't tell anyone who doesn't already know that magic is real. Is that other group really capable of anything problematic? Come to think of it, would't the magic angle be a reason for Jay to keep quiet?
If Jay's (and Diane's) spell is capable of making people believe what she says. It's possible she could spin a rumour anyway she'd want without even mentioning magic.
Or maybe she wants to get people talking about magic without implicating herself as a magic user.
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46 minutes ago, Darth Fluffy said:1 hour ago, mlooney said:Other than Noah, do you have a link to a canon source for that?
I can research it tonight, if you need me to. Do you not recall that he trained Edward and Noriko?
Let's not forget this moment, it's pretty safe to assume that magic wasn't part of the school's curriculum, but it's not difficult to believe that Adrian took Edward and Noriko under his wing in after school training, just ever since what happened with Edward and Noriko, he's limited himself to just trying to ensure gifted students are pushed to excel at normal school studies. Noah being an exception due to living with Adrian, and I kinda wonder if Adrian was reluctant in allowing Noah to learn magic for revenge.
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Just now, Darth Fluffy said:She still has an active connection to the Department of Magic Denial, and is actively hiding her knowledge from her daughter, with their cooperation. Also they are more aware of her than just as an occasional run in during magic incidents involving monster hunting and her being Edwards niece.
Given Arthur's reaction when Ellen demanded she call Nanase, I wouldn't be surprised if DBG is well aware of Noriko's family and has a "don't mess with them lest we incur the wrath of Noriko and/or Edward" policy, Edward is included since we've seen how Edward responded to Nanase being hurt, it's pretty clear he still considers the Kitsunes family despite Noriko's behaviour.
Just now, mlooney said:Noriko was looking for Tedd to be a wizard. Nanase is a powerful magic user, but she's not a wizard. Might tend to dampen any desire to make her a magical heir.
Nanase probably doesn't need to fit the bill as a Wizard to still fill the role as apprentice, it could still be possible to train Nanase in a way that has her develop appropriate spells, we know Nanase got a bunch of disguise and stealth and decoy spells because she spent a lot of time hiding, which put her in the mindset for getting related spells, all Noriko would have needed to do was get Nanase in the mindset of monster hunting rather than hiding.
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Just now, mlooney said:For some reason I assumed that the forms were done. I had assumed that they were TF gun forms, given that Grace can do those and has in the past. I must have missed or failed to remember that comic where Grace says that Tedd would need to make the watches.
We know it doesn't take much to transfer the design and spell to the watch, so Tedd could have easily done it shortly after getting back from playing chess with Elliot.
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Just now, hkmaly said:I wonder what would his uncle think about that. I mean, maybe he already count on Justin inheriting the shop?
I suspect his uncle would be saddened, but supportive of whatever Justin chose to do.
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Just now, mlooney said:Well, that too. Sort of goes to show that time passes when you aren't there.
Yeah, but that's mainly because Eve has been for the most part 90% player driven. though from what I hear, the latest update has introduced a new NPC faction that will actively conquer systems in all parts of space, and players can either join them, or fight them, so that could add a new dynamic to the game.
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Just now, mlooney said:Back before it went 64bit only and stopped being playable via WINE on a Linux box, that was one of the things I really liked about Eve:online. Time passes regardless of who or what is near you. There are major game play issues that happen on a timed basis and if you or your faction isn't ready when the timer ends, to freaking bad.
From what I remember about Eve in terms of time based events was whenever corp/alliance execs planned POS takedowns during times when the enemy was likely to be sleeping.
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Just now, mlooney said:Thinking about it, Jay does strike me as being a good option as to who the Hero of Magic could be. Just like the barber was fem!Justin, it's easy enough to see that main story line characters could be in this story line, just after they have shown in the main story.
I think Justin would have been the barber even if Dan hadn't gotten to the point of fem!Justin in the main story yet, it's been long established that Justin likes playing with hair.
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Just now, ijuin said:Thing is, what other girls do we know who would know enough about Grace, yet not know details such as her attitude about nudity?
Ashley and Diane just found out in canon, Rhoda doesn't but she's already the hero of melee (unless it turns out that all three heroes use the Rhoda model). I dunno if Catalina has actually met Grace yet, at least we haven't seen any mention that they've met, I wouldn't put it past Rhoda to have told Grace about Catalina and Catalina about Grace but then Catalina would only know as much as Rhoda, also Catalina's already in play as Rhoda's love interest.
Pizza/Gossip/Smoke more or less just came into play, not really sure Dan would set her up as a "hero" before we've learned what her intentions are in canon.
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1 hour ago, ijuin said:The character’s way of speaking makes me lean more toward Lucy than Diane. Also, Lucy has been established as being a “busty” character.
Yeah, but Lucy's also an amazon and unless the anti-spoiler veil hid this person's height as well as their breast size (which I guess could be possible), she'd be maybe as tall as Catalina.
This is the hero of Magic and we know what having high levels in Magic means to breast size, if Susan can have big boobs, I can see Diane having big boobs.
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https://www.egscomics.com/egsnp/parable-111
Alright....so female, apparently is the hero of magic (got the boobs for it), and we're left hanging as to who it is still.
The theory of it being Noah has definitely shrunk to nothing, unless Noah happens to be female this time around....though likely not.
Considering the puppy remarks, I'm leaning towards either Lucy of Diane as both have referred to Rhoda as a puppy.
Would be funny though if it turned out that all three "Heroes" used Rhoda's model.
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4 hours ago, Darth Fluffy said:Justin talking about hair jumped from NP to the main comic ...
Just now, mlooney said:Justin and hair are one of the constants of EGS. Granted not as much lately as in the past, but if any one is going to be into hair, it's Justin. The fashion thing is new however.
If Justin doesn't plan on running the comic shop full time after he graduates, I'd be very disappointed if he doesn't become a stylist/fashion consultant.
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1 hour ago, Tom Sewell said:When Pandora visits Adrian in the hospital, she lists four countries Adrian has lived in, maybe in order: The United States; England; France, and Germany. Maybe they're not in order; Germany wasn't really a nation until 1871, but this does establish that at one time Adrian wanted to fight for England. Not exactly great evidence for Adrian being an Anglophile; I kind of think Adrian became an Anglophile some time between Monday's and Wednesday's comic.
I've also said previously that the name Blaike has an English origin, Adrian, however has latin origins and has variations in English, French, and German. It'd be safe to say that Blaike was born in England, and we could assume Adrian was also born in England, but considering Blaike and Pandora adventured a fair bit, there is a chance Adrian was born in France or Pre-Germany, it's also quite possible they settled down in England when Pandora got pregnant (I honestly can't guess how Immortal pregnancies work, I would of course assume there's really no difference between Immortals and Humans anatomy-wise, but I doubt Dan would get into the nitty-gritty of that) and then Adrian traveled to France and Germany when he was old enough, eventually settling down in Moperville.
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Another point that I missed but someone on Discord brought up that would be in favor of this being Nanase's mom, in the 4th panel she mentions Adrian's "British-ness" and talks about it like "oh! they act soo posh and proper and like they're better than the US" meanwhile after the divorce Noriko seems to have ended up in England and having another child with a British man, or at the very least Van's development was spent around people with British accents. Still, I'd think if Noriko wasn't of fan of the British, she might have been inclined to avoid england.
Also, I am curious if Adrian British accent is just part of the old man disguise or if that's his real accent, cus I do get the feeling he switched whenever he dropped the illusion. I also got the feeling that Noriko and Edward knew what Adrian was by the time they were married. Because Adrian had said they remained friends after they graduated it's not a stretch to think he told them about being the son of an Immortal, and maybe Adrian is the reason Edward knows a lot about them. Nanase's mom though, if her dislike of Adrian as a teacher made it so she never found out about him being an Elf until later (like around the time of the divorce maybe, or at least when Tedd was born and Adrian was named Tedd's Godfather).
And now, another theory as to why Mama Kitsune would have a "I have no sister" response, and her not wanting Nanase to know what she knows. When we saw Noriko and Adrian in that flashback and Noriko's seen still scanning Tedd in case she missed something, Noriko mentioned that magic was always straightforward with her family, what if she got it in her head that, if Tedd might not end up being her successor, could her sister's daughter have the potential? Tedd and Nanase are about the same age (Nanase being a little older, but not by much apparently) if Mama Kitsune caught Noriko scanning Nanase one day, I'd imagine Mama Kitsune would go full on Mama Kodiak.
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2 minutes ago, mlooney said:The same could be said for Lord Tedd, but I see your point. That being said, unless she shows up because the door/mirror calls her I'm not seeing a major or for that manner minor role for her in this story line.
I'm thinking that when we actually get around to seeing Noriko, Van will be involved, and the WoM wanted to hold off on Tedd finding out Van's their half sibling until a specific time which I don't think is during this party. I think Dan expects readers to jump to the "It's Noriko!" conclusion based on the vagueness of this page, but at the same time I believe there are enough crumbs to sort out whether it actually is or not.
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1 minute ago, mlooney said:I can see your point and agree with it in the main, I should say that she hasn't been a point of view character or one that has had a significant amount of screen time as yet. While not a new character as such, there isn't a lot we know about her as a character. We know she's a monster hunting wizard with a 2nd child and that she was upset about Tedd not being a wizard and that she had left Tedd and Edward, possibly due to Tedd not being a wizard. While that sounds like a lot, it's not really all that much.
But we know Dan's been sitting on her (minds out of the gutter people!!) for a long time, which has got to mean something as well.
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1 minute ago, mlooney said:That is why I qualified the new character bit. She hasn't had even a minor on screen bit. I mean we have seen Mr. Brown once before, but I'd call him a new character if he started being important to the plot.
I'd put Noriko in the "always there" category, she's been seen for certain once in the flashback with Adrian, and it was assumed the figure we saw when Wolf was describing the last person to fight Not_Tengu was Noriko. We've known of "The mother that left Tedd" as far back as Lunchtable Revelations when Tedd revealed that his parents were divorced. Dan's been developing Noriko almost as much as he had been developing Pandora and while Pandora of course has had more screen presence, people have still been talking about Noriko for quite some time, so I can't at all agree that she should be considered a "New character".
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7 hours ago, Tom Sewell said:For all we know, Noriko could be as hefty or heftier than her sister by now. Any votes for Noriko in the Expanded Edition?
My bets, especially based on Not_Tengu calling Nanase the "spitting image of Noriko", are that Noriko is still quite active as a monster hunter (even Van confirms that) if she's still using magic frequently, it's probably unlikely that she's gained any wieght like her sister has.
Also, like Nanase, I'm inclined to believe that Noriko has a fitness regime to keep in shape for chasing monsters.
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8 minutes ago, Darth Fluffy said:Nah, Dan is fastidious about details, that's not an error.
Definitely not an art error, as we see when they first brought out the door, the paneled part is at the bottom with the knob on the right, in this page, the door is essentially upside down...or rather Elliot and Justin got it turned upside down when they brought it out.
For what they were using it for, they didn't need to know which end was the top.
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1 hour ago, Darth Fluffy said:I agree on the arm. Also Nanase's mom's arm would look heavier, no? Don't know the movie reference; clue, please. I dont think she lives in their house, I think she's skrying through the mirror(s). The ravenous from the use of magic is a thing; Nanase's done it, and Grace just recently. Not merely a family trait.
She looks heavier now, but years ago? We saw in Goonmanji 2 what Nanase's mom likely looked like when she was younger. Like I said in a previous post, maybe she stopped using magic, but didn't cut back on the cheesecake.
44 minutes ago, hkmaly said:Four enchantments. Could be both.
She said it was supposed to be a time and magic saver, the magic saver part is obvious, if it's meant to hold large amounts of magic energy it would allow someone to use it as a battery that recharges over time, like Tedd's gauntlet. The time saver part though could mean anything from traveling to other places, or.... I dunno, I still think it being a door wasn't intended, that the creator was trying to create something easier to carry, but it ended up being a door that potentially only did half of what they wanted it to do, creating something from nothing isn't unheard of, since Nanase is capable of doing so with the fairy dolls, and considering Tara's reaction to seeing it, it wouldn't be surprising if either Noriko and/or Mama Kitsune also had the ability to create objects with persistence.
1 hour ago, hkmaly said:There is proximity factor, yes ... but also yes, four enchantments - it's possible the absorbing of magic works but some other part only started working after magic not-a-change.
Much like Kevin, maybe the enchantments that were used were the right ones for what was needed (maybe aside from it being a door) but the system's restrictions didn't allow for that many enchantments to function simultaneously. Those restrictions are gone now.
Something else that I think might be a clue to this being the work of Mama Kitsune, Nanase brought up the fact that she made another attempt to see if her mom is aware that she can use Magic which failed left Nanase still wondering if her mom knows anything. If Mama Kitsune did create the door, then there's a chance that it could erase all doubt Nanase had about it and finally get her and her mom talking.
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17 minutes ago, mlooney said:I had another idea about the door. It's Kevin mark II. It's a failed attempt at making a device that works now due to the not-change in magic.
This I certainly agree with, cus the person who made it had a concern of the door absorbing too much magic, with all that had gone on in the basement over the past year, it's either absorbed lots of magic by now, or has only been absorbing magic since the "not change". of course there may be a proximity factor that only come into play since the door was moved out into the open and has spells casted next to it.
20 minutes ago, mlooney said:Edward obviously knows about the door, he told Tedd to only move it with burly men and didn't warn him about not doing magic in front of it, which means, at least to Edward, it doesn't work and is therefore harmless. It's possible that it hasn't dawned on him that he has a ticking time bomb magical item in his basement disguised as a door and mirror. And I think it's both the door and the mirror that is the magic item as it was the door, not the mirror that made the clicking noise.
Can't be so sure about this, obviously the person who created it hid it in the basement with no intention of telling anyone about it, all Tedd said was that they found it cleaning and that Edward had forgotten it was there, but did Edward really forget it was there, or was he just assuming that he must he put it there and forgot about it? Also if Edward knew the door was a failed attempt at enchanting, would he be inclined to allow Tedd and co to use it, not knowing what it could possibly do? especially considering Kevin, a wand that was initially thought to be a failed project, unexpectedly coming to life, I'd expect Edward to be extremely wary of objects used in failed enchantments.
16 minutes ago, mlooney said:Another thought. We've been assuming that the mystery person is female. What if it's Edward at a younger age? We know he knows about the door, so it's not like it was hidden from him, it's possible that he failed to enchant it, not one of the two sisters.
I don't expect Edward to have talked about Adrian in this manner either really, at least not until after the divorce. and again, we don't know if Edward knows if the door is anything but a door.
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6 minutes ago, mlooney said:I think it's Noriko mainly due to the last panel. The way it was worded makes it sound like someone that lives in that house full time.
I would expect that if it was Noriko, what reason would she have of hiding what she did from Edward, if what she was trying to make was simply as an aid, some way of storing magic energy, it wouldn't have hurt her to ask Edward for help, either in fixing the enchantments, or removing the enchantments altogether so she could start fresh, heck Edward could have gone to Adrien himself and took whatever lecture about stacking enchantments (I think this is a reason why Dan decided to bring up stacking enchantments earlier in the story) from him instead of Noriko.
Also, there are only two time period where it's possible that Noriko would say stuff like this about Adrian, either during highschool, in which case she wouldn't be living in this house (unless of course her family owned the house before her and Edward got married, in which case it would help the Mama Kitsune theory rather than debunk it) or around the time her and Edward got divorced, and this person doesn't come across as someone who's about to leave Edward.
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1 minute ago, Tom Sewell said:I'm not. Nanase's mom wouldn't have been living in the Verres house.
Actually, I suspect Noriko was already increasing her caloric intake because she was pregnant with Tedd. The big disappointment wouldn't come until after Tedd was born.
Did you read the rest of my post? I gave reasons why this person doesn't have to be living in the house to still be in the house.
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1 hour ago, mlooney said:Looks like we are getting an explanation of the door knob click. And it seems to be related to Tedd's mother.
I'm actually thinking that it is Nanase's mom here.
1: she's half-assing what she's trying to do, Pandora told Tedd that Nanase's mom could have been as good as Noriko if she was serious about it, the dialog here doesn't come across as being serious about what she's trying to accomplish.
2: the way she mocks Adrian, Adrian had said that he had remained friends with Edward and Noriko after school, also the interaction we saw between Noriko and Adrian in regards to Tedd does not fit the behaviour we see here. We do know that Nanase's mom has a dislike for Adrian, it's entirely possible that this dialog, plus what Pandora said about Nanase's mom not taking magic seriously would indicate a dislike that goes beyond just what Adrian might have done to cause Edward and Noriko's divorce, what Nanase said about thinking Adrian was her least favorite teacher might be closer to the truth than she thought.
3: the mention of increasing calorie intake, Nanase is known to have a hefty apatite which she has stated allows her to burn calories to cast spells. mind you, yes it's likely Noriko has this ability too, but it's also likely Nanase's mom does as well, and...well... Nanase's mom looks like someone who's decreased their magic usage, but not her caloric intake.
Now why she'd be in Edward's house? Could be a number of reasons, babysitting Tedd is a possibility, though if it was before Tedd was born, maybe she was keeping an eye on the house for Edward and Noriko while they were away, or maybe she snuck in there to make use of materials Edward and Noriko had in order to make what she wanted. I think the door was actually not intended to be a door but Mama Kitsune goofed up the enchantments which resulted in the creation of a door. She also had to move the door to the basement and hide it so no questions would be asked, she also intended on coming back at some point to try to fix it, but it's entirely possible that after Edward and Noriko's divorce, Mama Kitsune didn't feel right about going back to Edward's house and of course ended up forgetting the door existed.
NP Tuesday, Jun 2, 2020
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She was supposed to go looking for the hero of magic, but then she let Rhoda go to the pub and everything got sidetracked.
Either Arthur will go "You gotta find the Hero of Ranged now before they get kidnapped too!" or "You must rescue the Hero of Magic before they do bad things to them!" which will either have Susan agreeing with one, or deciding to do the other instead like "Find the Hero of Ranged" "I'mma rescue Magic first!"
Also even Susan's expecting the other heroes to look like friends of friends. I guess Rhoda can go either way though, friend of Grace, or friend of Catalina, though...who else could have "friend of friend" status with both Grace and Susan... there's Lucy>Rhoda>Grace and Lucy>Diane>Susan, I'm not sure about Noah really because in canon he's not really considered a friend at the moment, more like an acquaintance that's slightly above neutral, Ashley's sliding into just "friend" rather than "friend of friend".
Basically I'm trying to cover both "this could be all about Grace" or "this could be all about Susan" by trying to find connections that are common to both of them but can be exclusive to each of them as well, hence how Rhoda doesn't need Grace to be connected to Susan, having X>Grace>Susan or X>Susan>Grace is not what I'm looking for here.