np NP, Wednesday April 27, 2016

[The Old Hack 2,448]

1 hour ago, Sjmcc13 said:

The pacifist route removes allot of the fun options in the game, as there a bunch of quest lines/exploration you just can not do since you need to kill the flora and fauna on top of the raiders/legion/whatever to get through them. 

That said the Legion is a result of a problem that Sandbox Games have, if you want to make it so you can do anything or as much as possible in game, you have to be able to chose factions, which often means you have to be able to side wit the villain, which leads to horrible options. 

Incidentally, the MMO The Old Republic from Bioware does it differently. While the Empire on the surface consists of bad guys and the Republic of good guys, the choices in the missions consist of Light Side/Dark Side choices for yourself. Just as there are some surprisingly decent people in the Empire, there are also some truly rotten apples in the Republic. Ultimately, the choice of Good or Evil rests with the player, not the faction.

[ijuin 572]

On 4/27/2016 at 7:42 AM, Sjmcc13 said:

NV is better off without most of the factions. 

The only ones I would think are fine as the stand (aside from the communities) that are trying to improve things are : 

Followers of the Apocalypse
Bright Brotherhood
Kings
Westside Militia

 

I assume that the Kings are the aforementioned group of Elvis followers?

[Matoyak 51]

13 hours ago, CritterKeeper said:

Never having played the game, I'm more than ready for the storyline to end.  What I'm seeing of the game here makes me far less likely to ever try playing it, or anything like it.

One thing to keep in mind is that Dan is singling out specific parts to make fun of, and presenting them out of context for humor, and he's had Grace doing something the game was not fully intended to pull off. It's not a good way to judge the game, or the genre, at all. He's showcasing the worst and most ridiculous aspects of the game.

[Sjmcc13 42]

26 minutes ago, ijuin said:

 

I assume that the Kings are the aforementioned group of Elvis followers?

Elvis worshipers might be a better description. 

Though their headquarters does happen to be a Elvis Impersonation school...

[Pharaoh RutinTutin 1,586]

25 minutes ago, Matoyak said:

One thing to keep in mind is that Dan is singling out specific parts to make fun of, and presenting them out of context for humor, and he's had Grace doing something the game was not fully intended to pull off. It's not a good way to judge the game, or the genre, at all. He's showcasing the worst and most ridiculous aspects of the game.

What's wrong with this?

This is the way I was taught about almost everything outside the American Midwest in Elementary school.

[Veya 1]

On 4/27/2016 at 2:05 AM, partner555 said:

I bet many people playing the game found it cathartic to beat these guys up.

You have no idea.

I am a huge Fallout fan, and New Vegas is my favorite game of the series, I've played it countless times and did every ending several times, except the Legion ending, which I did only once for the achievement and never again.

In my every playthrough, I activelly go out of my way to cause as much trouble to the legion, and by "trouble", I mean "erradicate every single member of the Legion I can find from the face of the planet", to the point I have every single Legion spawn and encapment memorized so I can systematically erase them at will.

It reaches the point of being somewhat troubling how very obsessively violent I am against them, I am cool with every other joinable faction in the game, and often will make sure to save as many faction as possible, but there is nothing worth saving with the Legion.

[CritterKeeper 1,102]

4 hours ago, Sjmcc13 said:

The pacifist route removes allot of the fun options in the game, as there a bunch of quest lines/exploration you just can not do since you need to kill the flora and fauna on top of the raiders/legion/whatever to get through them. 

Hearing killing animals (fauna) described as one of the "fun options" does not exactly improve my impression of these games....

[Veya 1]

1 minute ago, CritterKeeper said:

Hearing killing animals (fauna) described as one of the "fun options" does not exactly improve my impression of these games....

The animals in this game involve mutated gigantic scorpions and chameleons that were genetically engineered into death machines past the point of being identified as chameleons, you don't exactly feel bad for killing them.

I only ever few bad about killing dogs, and you don't ever HAVE to kill dogs in this game.

[Sjmcc13 42]

On 4/27/2016 at 1:05 AM, partner555 said:

I bet many people playing the game found it cathartic to beat these guys up.

Yup, I have a habit of saving up Legin coins (from killing his soldiers and some from Casinos) until I can load up a combat shotgun with Coin shot, so I can kill Caesar by shooting his coins into his face from point blank range.

31 minutes ago, CritterKeeper said:

Hearing killing animals (fauna) described as one of the "fun options" does not exactly improve my impression of these games....

you might want to look at some of the Fauna, and another example. also killing them is not the fun part, the quests are the fun part, but you have to be willing to kill the hostiles to do several of the quests. I am not advocating Brahmin tipping, but shooting a  Cazador with a FatMan is hella satisfying.

[hkmaly 490]

3 hours ago, Sjmcc13 said:

On 04/27/2016 at 7:05 AM, partner555 said:

I bet many people playing the game found it cathartic to beat these guys up.

Yup, I have a habit of saving up Legin coins (from killing his soldiers and some from Casinos) until I can load up a combat shotgun with Coin shot, so I can kill Caesar by shooting his coins into his face from point blank range.

Sounds much better than memorizing every single Legion spawn and encapment. Also, the game get points for allowing to load shotgun with coins.

[Veya 1]

1 hour ago, hkmaly said:

Sounds much better than memorizing every single Legion spawn and encapment. Also, the game get points for allowing to load shotgun with coins.

It's more that I played this game so much I memorized overtime, I didn't intentionally and systematically write down the locations.

This isn't just about the Legion, I know every inch of that overworld, the main reason I stopped playing it was because I knew everything so well that I was avoiding all ambushes and traps without even thinking, when I started going through Nipton Town Hall and instinctivelly deactivating mines and shooting enemies before I could possibly know they were there, I realized it got a bit silly.

[hkmaly 490]

1 hour ago, Veya said:

when I started going through Nipton Town Hall and instinctivelly deactivating mines and shooting enemies before I could possibly know they were there, I realized it got a bit silly.

... well, you can roleplay a seer that way

[Don Edwards 548]

9 hours ago, Sjmcc13 said:

Yup, I have a habit of saving up Legin coins (from killing his soldiers and some from Casinos) until I can load up a combat shotgun with Coin shot, so I can kill Caesar by shooting his coins into his face from point blank range.

Rend Caesar with that which is Caesar's.

[Trix Marano 4]

On 27/04/2016 at 5:27 AM, Scotty said:

http://www.egscomics.com/egsnp.php?id=452

Am I the only one to imagine this guy with an Australian accent?

Not that I'm deliberately being offensive to the Australians, just that first line clinched it for me.

[The Old Hack 2,448]

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