NP Friday 27 May 2016

[CritterKeeper 1,102]

Am I the only person here whose definition of a "argument" can include friendly exchanges, not just bad ones?  You give your argument on a point, then I give mine, then we back-and-forth about it,  As long as you don't start using fallacies like Straw Man or Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc, then a good argument can be quite enjoyable.

A "debate" is more formal, a "discussion" doesn't cover each taking and supporting a side the way argument does.

[Random Wanderer 13]

[hkmaly 490]

4 hours ago, CritterKeeper said:

Am I the only person here whose definition of a "argument" can include friendly exchanges, not just bad ones?

No. But not being native speaker, my opinion doesn't mean much.

 

[The Old Hack 2,448]

5 hours ago, hkmaly said:

No. But not being native speaker, my opinion doesn't mean much.

 

For what it is worth, I use 'argument' in that sense, too.

[Matoyak 51]

To me, an argument looks like this:

customer.set(arg1);

(But jokes aside, most people I know use "argument" for when a debate has gotten heated, soured, or otherwise caused harm or potential harm).

[Cpt. Obvious 73]

On den 29 maj 2016 at 6:03 AM, The Old Hack said:

For what it is worth, I use 'argument' in that sense, too.

I've always used 'argument' as a synonym for 'dispute'. As I understand it an argument doesn't have to be emotionally charged, though it seems to be a common opinion. Besides debates has often enough devolved into screaming and fisticuffs...
 

[Drasvin 123]

4 hours ago, Cpt. Obvious said:

I've always used 'argument' as a synonym for 'dispute'. As I understand it an argument doesn't have to be emotionally charged, though it seems to be a common opinion. Besides debates has often enough devolved into screaming and fisticuffs...
 

Yeah. Take the Council of Nicaea for instance. A massive congregation of bishops to hammer out theological issues. Got rather heated at times, and even devolved into a brawl at one point.

[ijuin 572]

Among other things, one rumor about that brawl during the Council of Nicea was that St. Nicholas of Myra (i.e. Santa Claus himself) personally grabbed the heretic Arius by the throat and choked him. (Arius was preaching that the Christ was a creation of God rather than being of one and the same nature as God.)

[mlooney 3,417]

On 5/30/2016 at 2:46 PM, ijuin said:

Among other things, one rumor about that brawl during the Council of Nicea was that St. Nicholas of Myra (i.e. Santa Claus himself) personally grabbed the heretic Arius by the throat and choked him. (Arius was preaching that the Christ was a creation of God rather than being of one and the same nature as God.)

"I'm hear to give out toys and smite heretics, and I'm fresh out of toys....."

 

[The Old Hack 2,448]

8 hours ago, mlooney said:

"I'm hear to give out toys and smite heretics, and I'm fresh out of toys....."

 

He KNOWS when you've been bad!