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I find it interesting that the Emissary senses only "a bit" of instability in Pandora.  This is something I've thought about Pandora for quite a while now.  Given how overdue she is for reset, she's probably supposed to be incredibly unstable by now.  Pandora is apparently the champion at holding off reset without going completely off her rocker; either that, or she did go completely off her rocker, for so long that she came out the other side and became relatively sane and stable again.  I suspect having love as the basis for her holding off reset, as well as having the example of such a good man to hold herself to, was a critical factor.

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7 hours ago, CritterKeeper said:

http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=2221

I find it interesting that the Emissary senses only "a bit" of instability in Pandora.  This is something I've thought about Pandora for quite a while now.  Given how overdue she is for reset, she's probably supposed to be incredibly unstable by now.  Pandora is apparently the champion at holding off reset without going completely off her rocker; either that, or she did go completely off her rocker, for so long that she came out the other side and became relatively sane and stable again.  I suspect having love as the basis for her holding off reset, as well as having the example of such a good man to hold herself to, was a critical factor.

I think it's partly that she has her love of Blake and Adrian to keep herself grounded, but as hinted at on this page, she can forcibly pull her mind together, though doing so is difficult and tiring. She's likely doing her best to hold her mind together so she can get the information she wants from the Emissary without putting the integrity of Grace's mind in danger. Also the Emissary shows a couple times that he doesn't really know Immortals that well, so he might be misjudging how unstable Pandora is.

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6 hours ago, Drasvin said:

Also the Emissary shows a couple times that he doesn't really know Immortals that well,

If recent story comics are to be believed, the will of magic itself does not understand physical life.

It seems to me that the Will of Magic has a history of contacting mortal minds and then not giving those minds quite enough info (Disco Wizard) and not getting quite enough info back (Tedd?).

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1 hour ago, Pharaoh RutinTutin said:

If recent story comics are to be believed, the will of magic itself does not understand physical life.

It seems to me that the Will of Magic has a history of contacting mortal minds and then not giving those minds quite enough info (Disco Wizard) and not getting quite enough info back (Tedd?).

The last reset happened when a warmongering horde attempted to use magic to conquer others. The WoM could have easily justified that it didn't want magic to be used that way. This time around is completely different, the reasons magic was being used is mixed, yeah there's violent acts involved, but there's also the need to protect others and then there's the fun aspect. There probably isn't a clear reason for changing completely hence the need for a human perspective in order to determine the severity of the system change.

A possibility is that while the WoM might not understand the corporeal experience, it probably still understands that humanity has had a violent history, and might have restricted the use of magic because of how easy it could be used by humans to kill each other. Each time the WoM feels the need to change the system, it's gotta check to see if humanity is still at risk of destroying themselves or if they can be relatively responsible, maybe there's a threshold where if the number of morally good vs morally evil is such that the WoM deems humanity capable of self regulation then it would be less restrictive. Not sure if we're there yet though.

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20 hours ago, Drasvin said:

I think it's partly that she has her love of Blake and Adrian to keep herself grounded, but as hinted at on this page, she can forcibly pull her mind together, though doing so is difficult and tiring. She's likely doing her best to hold her mind together so she can get the information she wants from the Emissary without putting the integrity of Grace's mind in danger. Also the Emissary shows a couple times that he doesn't really know Immortals that well, so he might be misjudging how unstable Pandora is.

There's also polite (or ironic) understatement...

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4 hours ago, Scotty said:

The last reset happened when a warmongering horde attempted to use magic to conquer others. The WoM could have easily justified that it didn't want magic to be used that way. This time around is completely different, the reasons magic was being used is mixed, yeah there's violent acts involved, but there's also the need to protect others and then there's the fun aspect. There probably isn't a clear reason for changing completely hence the need for a human perspective in order to determine the severity of the system change.

A possibility is that while the WoM might not understand the corporeal experience, it probably still understands that humanity has had a violent history, and might have restricted the use of magic because of how easy it could be used by humans to kill each other. Each time the WoM feels the need to change the system, it's gotta check to see if humanity is still at risk of destroying themselves or if they can be relatively responsible, maybe there's a threshold where if the number of morally good vs morally evil is such that the WoM deems humanity capable of self regulation then it would be less restrictive. Not sure if we're there yet though.

I was under the impression the WoM didn't understand or care about "good" and "evil". Which does raise the question what it's problem is with how magic was being used.

A thought that just occurred to me: what if it isn't so much that WoM wants magic to be a secret or only a relatively small number of people to use magic, what if there is only so much magic to go around, and if everybody in the world got an equal amount, no one would have enough to do anything with it? The WoM would then have to find a way to restrict either who can use Magic or who knows how to use Magic to ensure that magic can be used at all.

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11 minutes ago, ChronosCat said:

A thought that just occurred to me: what if it isn't so much that WoM wants magic to be a secret or only a relatively small number of people to use magic, what if there is only so much magic to go around, and if everybody in the world got an equal amount, no one would have enough to do anything with it? The WoM would then have to find a way to restrict either who can use Magic or who knows how to use Magic to ensure that magic can be used at all.

The other half of the world seems to be fine with magic being well known, the two halves share the same energy as it flows back and forth between them, but either each half has it's own WoM or the WoM decided that one half shouldn't or doesn't need to be restricted, but I don't think the amount of energy available is a factor.

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2 hours ago, Scotty said:

The other half of the world seems to be fine with magic being well known, the two halves share the same energy as it flows back and forth between them, but either each half has it's own WoM or the WoM decided that one half shouldn't or doesn't need to be restricted, but I don't think the amount of energy available is a factor.

But can everybody in the other half use magic? In "this" half of the world (almost) everybody has the potential to gain magic but it being a secret keeps the numbers of mages down. In the other half of the world magic is well known but the majority of the population might be unable to gain magic.

 

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47 minutes ago, ChronosCat said:

But can everybody in the other half use magic? In "this" half of the world (almost) everybody has the potential to gain magic but it being a secret keeps the numbers of mages down. In the other half of the world magic is well known but the majority of the population might be unable to gain magic.

 

There definitely seems to be varied degrees of usage as the strongest magic users are considered royalty. but that also might have to do with being related to Fairies (or Ancients as they call themselves). So it stands to reason that those that can't use magic just don't have any Fairy ancestry.

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