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The Old Hack

Story Monday October 30, 2017

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1 hour ago, animalia said:

That being said all of this is predicated on the idea that her aversion to be touched in that maner is caused by deep emotional trauma, something which we have no way to know about one way or the other at this point.

Even if it's caused by deep emotional trauma, it may be different trauma than the one involving vampire. You didn't explained why person couldn't have two completely separate emotional traumas.

On the other hand, it seems more related to her allergy than to any trauma.

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6 hours ago, Thor said:

Considering "THINGS" almost exclusively involves one touching or one being touched by another person's damp and smelly parts, and how Susan can barely touch another person's typical parts there's no way to really tease out the specifics of her sexuality without mitigating her compulsive/phobic behavior first. 

And something about EGS I'm sure I've said before is that it's astounding the amount of time the characters dwell on all kinds of sexuality, but none of them do much with their sexuality. All theory and no practice.

The Moderator: *dryly* Yes, we have heard that particular lament of yours before and it did not impress then, either. If you are sore about not getting enough action, I recommend porn. Otherwise, stick to constructive criticism according to the FAQ rules.

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1 hour ago, hkmaly said:

Even if it's caused by deep emotional trauma, it may be different trauma than the one involving vampire. You didn't explained why person couldn't have two completely separate emotional traumas.

On the other hand, it seems more related to her allergy than to any trauma.

She should not have to explain. We do not have to pull out hypothetical different traumatic events when the ones that already exist suffice to explain such troubles.

Also, that was not proof of Susan having an allergy but an analog for her having one. And do not simply treat such psychological problems as separate issues. Often they interrelate in very complicated ways. Susan's fear of touch may relate to the same issues she has with having sex. These may be rooted in trauma or they might already have been a minor issue of hers before then that became a major issue following trauma. The human mind is a strange place and it does not follow simple rules.

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50 minutes ago, The Old Hack said:

We do not have to pull out hypothetical different traumatic events when the ones that already exist suffice to explain such troubles.

We also don't need to invent new one when we still have the one from divorce we KNOW she has.

52 minutes ago, The Old Hack said:

Also, that was not proof of Susan having an allergy but an analog for her having one.

... did I forgot to put the allergy in quotes? ... oh right I did. I meant that her issue with sex may be related to her fear of touch.

Oh. Right. We don't know if her fear of touch itself isn't caused by trauma.

53 minutes ago, The Old Hack said:

And do not simply treat such psychological problems as separate issues. Often they interrelate in very complicated ways. Susan's fear of touch may relate to the same issues she has with having sex. These may be rooted in trauma or they might already have been a minor issue of hers before then that became a major issue following trauma. The human mind is a strange place and it does not follow simple rules.

But do they always interrelate? Sounds like too simple rule ...

Obviously, doing psychoanalysis of comic character who may be partially but certainly not fully inspired by problems author himself has* is unlikely to produce solid results. Doing psychoanalysis on real people is already hard. And we have very little information about how Susan was before the incident with vampire, much less divorce.**

As I already said, logically the traumas from catching her father or vampire incident doesn't seem to be related to her touch issue, but traumas may not work logically so we can't rule that out completely.

I just think that going into the other extreme and be sure that everything must be related is too much. (Sure, everything certainly contributed to her having limited social life, on the other hand she may not have better social life even without those issues.)

* I don't think Dan has trauma from killing vampire. Although I might be mistaken. Or it might be less literal.

** And while her mother does, she might not get her therapy just because some difference in behaviour. Especially in EGS, where therapists are so hard to get. At least mortal therapists.

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@The Old HackDoes Dan have any feelings about him creating his own non-canon fanfic and posting them online somewhere else? I assume has long as Dan doesn't have to deal with them/ be exposed to them he would probably be ok with it, but I honestly don't know.

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5 minutes ago, animalia said:

@The Old HackDoes Dan have any feelings about him creating his own non-canon fanfic and posting them online somewhere else? I assume has long as Dan doesn't have to deal with them/ be exposed to them he would probably be ok with it, but I honestly don't know.

If I'm reading that correctly, the "Touch Practice" Patreon image includes what is aptly referred to as "Danfiction". That's probably the closest you'll get.

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3 hours ago, hkmaly said:

But do they always interrelate? Sounds like too simple rule ...

I said often and may. These both indicate possibles, not absolutes.

1 hour ago, animalia said:

Does Dan have any feelings about him creating his own non-canon fanfic and posting them online somewhere else? I assume has long as Dan doesn't have to deal with them/ be exposed to them he would probably be ok with it, but I honestly don't know.

I am not quite sure I understand the question. Are you speaking of someone else creating fanfiction and posting it elsewhere? As far as I recall, Dan does not mind as long as it is not done for profit, his ownership of the characters is acknowledged and it is not posted anywhere where he may have a legal responsibility for it or be expected to be aware of it.

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