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9 minutes ago, Scotty said:

It might also be because it'd be impossible to cut humans off of magic completely, considering their ancestry to Fairies. The WoM doesn't have any say in who get's to be a seer either. People believe that the WoM has an agenda, but I think it's only working within it's own limits.

I don't think it's settled whether the Will of Magic governs just human magic. Perhaps the WoM does also encompasses Immortal magic. If so, it could restrict Immortal magic if it wanted to. While individual Immortals can have far more magic than most humans, there are a lot more humans than there are Immortals. And if the WoM is dependent on the use of magic, it could need human magic users more than Immortal magic users.

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15 minutes ago, Tom Sewell said:

I don't think it's settled whether the Will of Magic governs just human magic. Perhaps the WoM does also encompasses Immortal magic. If so, it could restrict Immortal magic if it wanted to. While individual Immortals can have far more magic than most humans, there are a lot more humans than there are Immortals. And if the WoM is dependent on the use of magic, it could need human magic users more than Immortal magic users.

If we consider all magic connected, the WoM's statement of storms of chaos magic, could also imply that it's role is to give magic order and that it didn't create magic. Maybe Fairies predate the WoM and are a form of chaotic magic and they themselves have imposed regulations to create order, whether the WoM and Fairies are linked is uncertain though the fact that the WoM knew what Pandora did might be a hint at some connection, it is fairly certain that the WoM didn't create Immortal Law it's just aware of it.

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5 hours ago, Stature said:

Because adults could/should never think childishly, but child-like is still possible.

Now I'm picturing both the Child-Like Empress from The Neverending Story, and Tom Baker as the Doctor gleefully declaring, "There's no point in being grown--up if you can't act childishly!"

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3 minutes ago, CritterKeeper said:

Now I'm picturing both the Child-Like Empress from The Neverending Story, and Tom Baker as the Doctor gleefully declaring, "There's no point in being grown--up if you can't act childishly!"

And now I'm picturing The Neverending Story being done as a JRPG.

"The Child-Like Empress needs a name, what will you name her?"

"Boobs"

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4 hours ago, Haylo said:

This sounds like it might actually go through. So, what happens when Tedd requisitions a human guinea pig test subject (and with Sarah already in DGB's records, does she have the inside track on that opening)?

Trying to reconstruct something I posted before the forum crash... the following is said somewhere in Europe, in some language possibly beginning with the letter F...

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Ah, Noriko, there's a special assignment for you. Not a monster, for a change. The Americans have a very good researcher and engineer working with magic, and they've requested that we send them a high-power magic user he isn't already familiar with to help him with testing. Yes, he's VERY good - in fact the techniques behind that bracelet you're wearing are mostly his work. You're among the highest-power magic users we have, and the other two contenders are in mid-project.

--- Okay...

Here are your tickets and dossier. You'll be flying to Chicago, and an escort will meet you at the airport to take you to your hotel and Tedd Verres' lab... Noriko? Are you okay? 

 

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51 minutes ago, Tom Sewell said:
1 hour ago, Scotty said:

It might also be because it'd be impossible to cut humans off of magic completely, considering their ancestry to Fairies. The WoM doesn't have any say in who get's to be a seer either. People believe that the WoM has an agenda, but I think it's only working within it's own limits.

I don't think it's settled whether the Will of Magic governs just human magic. Perhaps the WoM does also encompasses Immortal magic. If so, it could restrict Immortal magic if it wanted to. While individual Immortals can have far more magic than most humans, there are a lot more humans than there are Immortals. And if the WoM is dependent on the use of magic, it could need human magic users more than Immortal magic users.

There is some evidence that the WoM is connected to Immortal magic. It knows about the spell Pandora cast, even though it stated it views the world through magic, as in the various spells that are formed and used. Though because the magic of Immortals is inherent to their being, the WoM has substantially fewer options to restrict them. It might be able to adjust how their spells interact, but it can't take their magic away.

Not only are there likely more humans than Immortals, but human magical energy generation might be more reliable overall. An individual Immortal can have more magic than a human, but the average Immortal might be comparable in power to the average human mage, Immortals just have greater access to knowledge and special abilities. On top of that, an Immortal's power fluctuates due to their cycle of resets, each reset dropping their power significantly. And given that the WoM is (and simultaneously isn't) magic itself, the magical energies flowing across the world would be akin to its body, it very substance of being. That sounds like something an entity like the WoM should care about there being a lot of.

A thought just occurred to me as I was typing this. The rate at which a human generates magical energy increases as they use magic. It's the whole mechanism behind training to Awakening and why Sarah can train with her spell to try to one day not need the ambient energy to cast it. What if humans are the only species that can increase their magic generation in this manner? Immortal magic increases simply through age. Uryuom magic isn't the same as earthly magic (and seems to be increased by adding forms anyway, though I could be wrong on that). Non-sapient animals don't seem capable of producing any energy beyond what is produced via metabolic process(They have to starve themselves to get rid of enchantments they don't want and gorge themselves to keep enchantments they do want). If humans are the only species on earth that increase production of magical energy through use of magic, then that would explain why the WoM cares so much about it being used by humans.

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22 minutes ago, Vorlonagent said:

This may not be the sort f job offer Tedd can say "no" to...

I'm not sure Arthur could force Tedd to accept without angering Edward and his superiors. Arthur wants Edward on good terms, due to his talent for averting cataclysmic crises and his superiors would be concerned about oversight and legal obligations (and his direct superior is a good friend to Edward). Tedd will likely want the resources, but if she didn't want to work for Arthur, I doubt there would be much he could do about it.

My concern is honestly more about whether or not his superiors would give him the authorization to do that. The Paranormal Division's SOP has been suppression of magical knowledge for as long as the Division has existed. They are part of a law-enforcement agency, and as such their mandate may be specifically focused on protecting the people, but it might still take some effort for Arthur to convince Assistant Director Leifeld (or worse, Leifeld's superiors) on the change in SOP, especially after his assurances of letting some incidents go public would solve the division's problems for decades.

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36 minutes ago, Drasvin said:

I'm not sure Arthur could force Tedd to accept without angering Edward and his superiors. Arthur wants Edward on good terms, due to his talent for averting cataclysmic crises and his superiors would be concerned about oversight and legal obligations (and his direct superior is a good friend to Edward). Tedd will likely want the resources, but if she didn't want to work for Arthur, I doubt there would be much he could do about it.

My concern is honestly more about whether or not his superiors would give him the authorization to do that. The Paranormal Division's SOP has been suppression of magical knowledge for as long as the Division has existed. They are part of a law-enforcement agency, and as such their mandate may be specifically focused on protecting the people, but it might still take some effort for Arthur to convince Assistant Director Leifeld (or worse, Leifeld's superiors) on the change in SOP, especially after his assurances of letting some incidents go public would solve the division's problems for decades.

the facts have been laid bare and they can't really do anything about it except adapt. it would be very easy to prove the circumstances have changed, and even if Arthur has to step down, they'll still have to figure something out, and they don't have the luxury of time.

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1 hour ago, Drasvin said:

I'm not sure Arthur could force Tedd to accept without angering Edward and his superiors. Arthur wants Edward on good terms, due to his talent for averting cataclysmic crises and his superiors would be concerned about oversight and legal obligations (and his direct superior is a good friend to Edward). Tedd will likely want the resources, but if she didn't want to work for Arthur, I doubt there would be much he could do about it.

My concern is honestly more about whether or not his superiors would give him the authorization to do that. The Paranormal Division's SOP has been suppression of magical knowledge for as long as the Division has existed. They are part of a law-enforcement agency, and as such their mandate may be specifically focused on protecting the people, but it might still take some effort for Arthur to convince Assistant Director Leifeld (or worse, Leifeld's superiors) on the change in SOP, especially after his assurances of letting some incidents go public would solve the division's problems for decades.

39 minutes ago, weirdee said:

the facts have been laid bare and they can't really do anything about it except adapt. it would be very easy to prove the circumstances have changed, and even if Arthur has to step down, they'll still have to figure something out, and they don't have the luxury of time.

The paranormal division would certainly remain relevant due to them already being trained to deal with situations where magic is involved but they also deal with other paranormal stuff like aliens so I wouldn't be worried about them becoming defunct just yet.

It's possible Leifeld won't be too happy about what happened, Arthur had assured him that the situation will either be contained or they wouldn't have to worry about it at all for decades, as it is neither of those possibilities were met so Arthur might have to really push to get Leifeld to approve of funding Tedd's research, we know Leifeld thinks highly of Edward as well so that might help, but we'll see how it goes.

I guess the big question would be, how will Edward take this?

 

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I wonder if Pandora's dam can be taken down now? We don't know if Adrian has the spell to take it down, and even after Pandora returns, we don't know if she will know how to do it. It could take quite a long time for Tedd to figure out how to make a spell that will work. Meanwhile, will Sarah be forced to keep using her magic to bring the ambient magic in Moperville down to safer levels? Because if the dam isn't brought down and the ambient magic level keeps building up, the remaining Aberrations and other pests like not-Tengu are going to keep getting drawn to Moperville. Hmmm. Sounds like Moperville might need some full-time monster hunters...

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14 hours ago, The Old Hack said:

And if so, I am certain she regrets it. But she cannot let herself feel guilt, because that might weaken her resolve. Hence that dictum that Van just used, perhaps?

Yes. And she needs to remind it to herself from time to time because humans are bad at controlling their feelings and no matter how good monster hunter she is she's still human. (Well, she certainly won't do the mistake to became aberration, will she?)

14 hours ago, weirdee said:

I think that he was mistakenly assuming that Tedd had just been making the watches by using the gauntlet to enchant things with copies of the TF gun's spells (but in Earth magic instead), instead of, y'know, reassembling the fabric of reality with his mind. Tedd also made the same mistake...and it sounded like the more reasonable assumption to the point where nobody would guess the latter if they had no idea of it existing.

Except as far as we know, doing that would be something noone else can do.

... although Edward might not know that. Finding that out is probably harder than finding what genderfluid is, and he didn't knew that either.

9 hours ago, Tuscahoma said:

If Edward has been reporting this though, I would presume that DGB would want a copy of the gauntlet, or at least Tedd's notes for it, and having tried to reverse-engineer it, failed and chalked it up to Tedd being a kid wanting attention or some such.  Still, working watches, from a gauntlet.  Use the gauntlet on something quality that is able to store a charge.  Wand-maker.  How is that not something that should have grabbed Edward's attention?   If Edward didn't know anything about Tedd, perhaps it's because he has a blind spot (too much drama  has happened already to question what Tedd is) or he is too busy with something else (heading off some coming Apocalypse).

Yes, exactly.

13 hours ago, CritterKeeper said:

The other option is that Edward knew full well what Tedd was doing, but kept it a secret, even from Tedd, to protect Tedd from government and/or bad guys and/or keep Tedd from suffering the self-esteem hit he took when Pandora told him the glove wasn't what he thought it was.

Edward seems convinced that Tedd is much more fragile than she really is. He has always tried too hard to protect Tedd from emotional stress, from not wanting to tell him about his mother to worrying that using the TFG to alter his sex would somehow be harmful to him. It's done out of love, a desire to protect Tedd, but it's no less harmful than some of what Pandora has done to her son....

Hmmmm ... I would argue that it would be bad idea (even if Tedd WOULD be more fragile), but that's sort of the point, right? Just because it's bad idea doesn't mean Edward don't think it's better for Tedd that way ...

13 hours ago, wanderingmagus said:

Arthur Arthur is nothing if not pragmatic. For all that he seemed like a bad guy now and then, his ultimate goal has always been the preservation of the human race as it stands, through whatever means he found necessary. Plus, giving Tedd a laboratory run and funded by the DGB means that HE can personally supervise the research, giving him authority over her and putting him in a position to threaten or seize her research if he felt it necessary.

His ultimate goal may be preserving his power (evil), DGB (unclear) or human race (good), but he does it in way that makes all three align most of the time.

And yes, totally: giving Tedd a laboratory is a way to control her research.

5 hours ago, Vorlonagent said:

This may not be the sort f job offer Tedd can say "no" to...

Definitely. They can take away not only TF gun, but also Grace if they need to give him more encouragement.

4 hours ago, Drasvin said:

I'm not sure Arthur could force Tedd to accept without angering Edward and his superiors.

That's only assuming this would anger Edward's superiors. If Arthur will explain it correctly, the superiors can say that it makes sense and tell Edward to not worry that they will protect his son if Arthur tries something bad.

12 hours ago, partner555 said:

Tedd's trustworthy with this sort of thing, and has Edward to vouch for him on this.

You assume Arthur trusts Tedd or Edward. He doesn't.

11 hours ago, Haylo said:

So, what happens when Tedd requisitions a human guinea pig test subject (and with Sarah already in DGB's records, does she have the inside track on that opening)?

Considering the difficulties in getting test subject willing to risk as much as Sarah, they would be glad she already has someone who agreed.

Her parents would probably be glad she's finally getting paid. In something else than unimaginable power, I mean.

9 hours ago, Scotty said:
14 hours ago, hkmaly said:

... I want to see his face when he realizes this. I know, it would be covered by his palms, if not desk of table, but still.

Let's see, failure to realize the wand was being resisted, failure to realize Tedd could see magic, failure to realize that Tedd was empowering the watches and not some fancy technodohicky he made, failure to realized Tedd's genderfluidity...

I don't think we have enough palms.

We do, if we get everyone on this discussion server to help. However, I don't think whole named cast of EGS has enough palms.

9 hours ago, Tuscahoma said:

If so, perhaps it was the fragility, or perhaps he didn't want Tedd to turn into a Lord Tedd.  In this instance, worrying about your child becoming a supervillain is a legitimate fear.

Reminds me other parents who wanted the best for their child and almost TURNED her into supervillain by the mistakes they did. If only they let professionals handle it instead ...

9 hours ago, Tom Sewell said:

Assuming Van really is Van's mother, how would she know Van has magic? He's a seer, which means he can't cast spells unless he's been granted them by another magic user, or made a wand?  Would she use another magic-detection wand? She has to  have known she traumatized Tedd with one.

There are probably other (less noisy and scary) ways to detect magic potential, and while seers were forgotten, wand makers were not. Van probably has wands in his normal clothes.

9 hours ago, The Old Hack said:

I suspect she had help, in a manner of speaking. Remember that Adrian Raven blames himself for the breakup between Noriko and Edward. He could have fed that pragmatic and magic-professional side of her, unwittingly goading her into making the extreme decision of separating herself from Edward and Tedd.

Sounds extremely likely.

8 hours ago, Nayl said:

Is anyone else finding it maddening that no one is asking a follow-up question, like, why would that be bad?  Has this been addressed previously?

If you can't answer that question yourself, you might be reading wrong comics.

(But otherwise yes, it would be bad for Will of Magic.)

6 hours ago, Scotty said:

And now I'm picturing The Neverending Story being done as a JRPG.

"The Child-Like Empress needs a name, what will you name her?"

"Boobs"

... that wasn't done yet? Hmmm ... nothing on google, except some arcade ...

6 hours ago, Drasvin said:

A thought just occurred to me as I was typing this. The rate at which a human generates magical energy increases as they use magic. It's the whole mechanism behind training to Awakening and why Sarah can train with her spell to try to one day not need the ambient energy to cast it. What if humans are the only species that can increase their magic generation in this manner? Immortal magic increases simply through age. Uryuom magic isn't the same as earthly magic (and seems to be increased by adding forms anyway, though I could be wrong on that). Non-sapient animals don't seem capable of producing any energy beyond what is produced via metabolic process(They have to starve themselves to get rid of enchantments they don't want and gorge themselves to keep enchantments they do want). If humans are the only species on earth that increase production of magical energy through use of magic, then that would explain why the WoM cares so much about it being used by humans.

Definitely possible, although note that Uryuom are not earth-native species.

2 hours ago, Scotty said:
4 hours ago, Drasvin said:

My concern is honestly more about whether or not his superiors would give him the authorization to do that. The Paranormal Division's SOP has been suppression of magical knowledge for as long as the Division has existed. They are part of a law-enforcement agency, and as such their mandate may be specifically focused on protecting the people, but it might still take some effort for Arthur to convince Assistant Director Leifeld (or worse, Leifeld's superiors) on the change in SOP, especially after his assurances of letting some incidents go public would solve the division's problems for decades.

3 hours ago, weirdee said:

the facts have been laid bare and they can't really do anything about it except adapt. it would be very easy to prove the circumstances have changed, and even if Arthur has to step down, they'll still have to figure something out, and they don't have the luxury of time.

The paranormal division would certainly remain relevant due to them already being trained to deal with situations where magic is involved but they also deal with other paranormal stuff like aliens so I wouldn't be worried about them becoming defunct just yet.

It's possible Leifeld won't be too happy about what happened, Arthur had assured him that the situation will either be contained or they wouldn't have to worry about it at all for decades, as it is neither of those possibilities were met so Arthur might have to really push to get Leifeld to approve of funding Tedd's research, we know Leifeld thinks highly of Edward as well so that might help, but we'll see how it goes.

It's possible they would want to punish Arthur ... but they may not have anyone else good for this job except Arthur and Edward. Sooo ... either they give Edward the job back, or maybe they get BOTH on board and force them to cooperate on strategy and maybe oversee them more ...

2 hours ago, Scotty said:

I guess the big question would be, how will Edward take this?

You mean after he recovers from that facepalming?

54 minutes ago, Tom Sewell said:

I wonder if Pandora's dam can be taken down now? We don't know if Adrian has the spell to take it down

I think he does. Now, question is if he remembers he should do it.

Note that what Pandora did certainly reduced ambient energy levels a LOT. Could take months before they reach dangerous levels again.

54 minutes ago, Tom Sewell said:

Sounds like Moperville might need some full-time monster hunters...

On meeting:

Agent Wolf, commander of monster hunter unit: "We need more people for this, or perhaps some civilian full-time monster hunters."

The head of paranormal research division, Tedd Verres: "Uh, I would have some candidates ..."

Paranormal director, Edward Verres: " ... Mrs. Kitsune will kill me."

 

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2 minutes ago, hkmaly said:
5 hours ago, Vorlonagent said:

This may not be the sort f job offer Tedd can say "no" to...

Definitely. They can take away not only TF gun, but also Grace if they need to give him more encouragement.

Let's see, Grace is fireproof, has a force field, can fly, can lift a car... any volunteers for this mission?

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9 minutes ago, hkmaly said:

or maybe they get BOTH on board and force them to cooperate on strategy and maybe oversee them more ...

To be honest I don't think any forcing would be necessary, Arthur was Edward's prior boss and taught him everything he knows and while Edward was thoroughly confused by Arthur's actions when retook the position as head of the paranormal division, I don't think Edward had any disrepect for Arthur, and we know Arthur has loads of respect for Edward since he agreed to doing the fake Cheerleadra sighting. Of course if they have to both watch over Tedd, there is potential for a conflict between father and supervisor but Arthur might just let Tedd work at whatever pace she's comfortable with and I imagine he'd be taking into consideration that Tedd needs to continue regular studies to finish high school.

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2 minutes ago, Scotty said:

I imagine he'd be taking into consideration that Tedd needs to continue regular studies to finish high school.

Are you kidding?  The FBI could make Tedd an intern who is "Paid" in college credit.  They could keep Tedd working twenty hours a week for the next six years or so, until earning a Masters (or Lordship), and pay Tedd less than the custodian.

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24 minutes ago, Tom Sewell said:
35 minutes ago, hkmaly said:

Definitely. They can take away not only TF gun, but also Grace if they need to give him more encouragement.

Let's see, Grace is fireproof, has a force field, can fly, can lift a car... any volunteers for this mission?

Grace is also afraid of hitting punching bag with face drawn on it and wouldn't consider looking at illegal copy of Star Wars.

They can take her just fine unless they make the mistake of making her lose control like Damien. Like, trying to take her by force might be mistake ... but they KNOW her, so why would they make such mistake? It's not like they will be locking her in dungeon cell.

19 minutes ago, Scotty said:
35 minutes ago, hkmaly said:

or maybe they get BOTH on board and force them to cooperate on strategy and maybe oversee them more ...

To be honest I don't think any forcing would be necessary, Arthur was Edward's prior boss and taught him everything he knows and while Edward was thoroughly confused by Arthur's actions when retook the position as head of the paranormal division, I don't think Edward had any disrepect for Arthur, and we know Arthur has loads of respect for Edward since he agreed to doing the fake Cheerleadra sighting.

True. There are things they didn't agreed on, but they probably would be open to compromise.

9 minutes ago, Pharaoh RutinTutin said:
19 minutes ago, Scotty said:

I imagine he'd be taking into consideration that Tedd needs to continue regular studies to finish high school.

Are you kidding?  The FBI could make Tedd an intern who is "Paid" in college credit.  They could keep Tedd working twenty hours a week for the next six years or so, until earning a Masters (or Lordship), and pay Tedd less than the custodian.

I don't think money would really be problem here. However, it MAY make more sense to let Tedd finish Moperville North (it's less than half year remaining isn't it?) and THEN make some college program for him.

 

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1 minute ago, hkmaly said:

True. There are things they didn't agreed on, but they probably would be open to compromise.

Not sure if Edward is even aware of that, quite possible that Cranium told him, but equally possible that Edward might have reluctantly agreed that sending agents out in the open like that wouldn't have been the best course of action.

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10 minutes ago, Scotty said:
13 minutes ago, hkmaly said:

True. There are things they didn't agreed on, but they probably would be open to compromise.

Not sure if Edward is even aware of that, quite possible that Cranium told him, but equally possible that Edward might have reluctantly agreed that sending agents out in the open like that wouldn't have been the best course of action.

Arthur didn't send anyone.

Edward would probably send agents with orders to try to get opportunity to take that dragon out when not in open.

It might end up the same if the dragon would keep being too much in public, but he would TRY.

Edward doesn't even need to be aware of this: Agent Cranium was working with him as director for long time and can predict what he would do. She was asking Arthur because she expected he will do something, BECAUSE Edward would.

13 minutes ago, hkmaly said:
36 minutes ago, Tom Sewell said:

.. any volunteers for this mission?

 ... but they KNOW her, so why would they make such mistake? It's not like they will be locking her in dungeon cell.

Thinking about it, they might send her brothers (and sister) to take her. She wouldn't hurt them.

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1 hour ago, hkmaly said:

Thinking about it, they might send her brothers (and sister) to take her. She wouldn't hurt them.

Maybe not, but I'm not so sure they would be willing to force her to do anything.  If they were sent to convince her of a certain position, she might be more likely to listen to them than to strangers, and then Tedd would be more willing to listen to her.

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1 hour ago, CritterKeeper said:
3 hours ago, hkmaly said:

Thinking about it, they might send her brothers (and sister) to take her. She wouldn't hurt them.

Maybe not, but I'm not so sure they would be willing to force her to do anything.  If they were sent to convince her of a certain position, she might be more likely to listen to them than to strangers, and then Tedd would be more willing to listen to her.

The idea is that they would approach her when she will be without Tedd and tell her that they must take her to undisclosed government facility because of national security. No, they don't know any details, top secret. No, she can't call Tedd, time is an essence and there is risk of someone eavesdropping the call.

55 minutes ago, Pharaoh RutinTutin said:

Speaking of Grace's siblings, they have been at their undisclosed government facility for about a year now.

Isn't it about time they got out?

Can we at least get a progress report?

Didn't Vladia got out on that date with Greg? Or is that just headcanon of several forumers, myself included?

Yes agree, we should get a progress report on them. But I understand why we didn't, with how much stuff is happening. Maybe at Grace's next birthday?

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34 minutes ago, hkmaly said:

Didn't Vladia got out on that date with Greg? Or is that just headcanon of several forumers, myself included?

Headcanon so far, and I think I may be the head cannon. Love to see their kids someday.

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1 hour ago, Pharaoh RutinTutin said:

Speaking of Grace's siblings, they have been at their undisclosed government facility for about a year now.

Isn't it about time they got out?

Can we at least get a progress report?

38 minutes ago, hkmaly said:

Didn't Vladia got out on that date with Greg? Or is that just headcanon of several forumers, myself included?

Yes agree, we should get a progress report on them. But I understand why we didn't, with how much stuff is happening. Maybe at Grace's next birthday?

It was the 2nd of March when Painted Black took place, so it's still over a month before it's been a year for them. It is possible that Dr Scuiridae might have arranged to have them spend more and more time out in public to make sure they can interact with people on a regular basis. I imagine Hedge and Guineas wouldn't have any issue and they would have kept an eye on Vladia just in case. So who knows. And yeah it's everyone's headcanon that Greg and Vladia are a couple only because we haven't seen Vladia since Grace's birthday and Greg out of the blue got a mysterious girlfriend who's only mysterious because we haven't seen Greg since before Christmas, and he met her at a New Years party. Although honestly I don't see Vladia as someone who would want to attend a party, she'd be likely to punch any guy that tried to flirt with her...Although...if she tried punching Greg, she'd probably get quite a shock. It'd he a hell of a way to introduce each other.

 

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35 minutes ago, Scotty said:

Although honestly I don't see Vladia as someone who would want to attend a party, she'd be likely to punch any guy that tried to flirt with her...Although...if she tried punching Greg, she'd probably get quite a shock. It'd he a hell of a way to introduce each other.

She might attend a party if someone brought it up as challenge. And yes, that WOULD be one way they might be introduced.

39 minutes ago, Scotty said:

And yeah it's everyone's headcanon that Greg and Vladia are a couple only because we haven't seen Vladia since Grace's birthday and Greg out of the blue got a mysterious girlfriend who's only mysterious because we haven't seen Greg since before Christmas, and he met her at a New Years party.

Aaand just few days after we found Greg has a girlfriend we saw this image of Vladia. Suspicious coincidence, isn't it?

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