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So, Pandora said that the wand Tedd was making could hold a small arsenal of spells, including enough power to cast them.  I wonder how many spells this wand holds, and whether it has enough power to cast them even for a very low-power caster?  If power will be a limiting factor, is the wand smart enough to direct her to use the most efficient spells in the most effective manner?

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3 hours ago, The Old Hack said:

Who says it was guarding the library? Maybe this was what they used to retrieve overdue books.

If so, boy are there going to be some epic fines being handed out soon.

Or maybe it has a book to return...

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Some interesting developments, certainly. The golem appears to have taken considerable damage from various small blasts, instead of the conventional weapons that would have been around at the time of the previous magic change, meaning it was under attack by magic users. One question though: was the golem the guardian of a library, or was it ordered to attack a library? My guess would be that it's a guardian, but it's vague enough that it could be either. On top of that, Ashley is a wizard. That certainly opens up some interesting possibilities, like her learning the Cheerleadra form (And crazy idea just popped into my head. Have Ashley learn both the Cheerleadra spell and Nanase's Guardian form spell, then combo them together).

10 hours ago, The Old Hack said:

...this is not good. Apparently all the 'useless' artifacts are coming alive in a cascade. Somehow I suspect that each new one will somehow cause yet another one to awaken like a really chaotic and terrifying row of dominoes falling. :doom:

Well, when someone stands in a powder magazine and throws a lit match, bad things are going to happen. Though the characters in question didn't know they were in a powder magazine...

10 hours ago, Scotty said:

In regards to the robot/golem thing, anyone else think that Uryuoms are connected? It's got that look to it. But then again, there's numerous ancient statues and such that don't resemble anything human and so some people speculate that they were carved in the likeness of extraterrestrial visitors. In one AU, Uryuoms helped fight in the american revolution, maybe Uryuoms had been visiting off and on for a thousand years or so?

The golem looks human shaped to me. The head has roughly the same shape as a human skull with no mouth or nasal hole and the cheek bones and contours are smoothed. The eyes look like empty eye sockets with some kind of magical light inside them (or at least the one eye that is working). Also the golem has human-esque hands. Most uryuom I could find are depicted with 3 fingers plus a thumb and the golem has four fingers plus a thumb, like humans do. (There are a couple instances of Lavender being depicted with four fingers plus a thumb, but I personally attribute that to her having one or more forms that are highly styled around humans. Also she is a secretary. An additional finger is probably helpful in typing)

11 hours ago, hkmaly said:

... also, will her magic be the kind which can get stuck if someone is transformed too long?

Any spells she learns personally should be the current system, though she probably could pick up some older system spells from all the old artifacts activating around her. Then again, magic has shown that it can easily be confused about people, so if Ashley first several spells are learned from older system artifacts, then it's possible her personal magic system setting will get switched to that of an older system.

7 hours ago, Tom Sewell said:
8 hours ago, hkmaly said:

didn't the wand updated it's English from 16th century (thou, cometh) to 21th (wow) when it linked to Ashley?

I already told everyone that Sheldon the wand was obviously working in the Catskills (AKA the Jewish Alps, AKA the Borscht Belt). Haven't you ever seen Dirty Dancing? That's the place and the era where the movie is set.  Sheldon the Wand might have actually been around in the Elizabethan Era, but he switched to at least 20th-century language without any magical special effects, so it's probably shtick with all the thous and thines and prithees.

I'll take Sheldon's word about Ashley being a real wizard, if a weak one.

That's technically possible, as the facility doesn't just hold (previously) inert artifacts, it also holds artifacts that were deemed to be of too little use to be a danger or even worth much more than just boxing up and forgetting about them. If that's the case though, then the prospects of the wand being able to help Ashley out of her current mess do not look good.

6 hours ago, chridd said:

Remember also, wizards learn other people's spells after they awaken, which means that there may be lots of wizards who don't know they're wizards because they haven't awakened (and probably some never awaken, and probably some aren't even aware of magic).

There are almost certainly wizards that don't know they're wizards. There are over 3000 seers. Only 5 of them have ever used magic, meaning most probably haven't even seen magic. And seers require the right mixture of heritage that requires them to be born from two wizard parents.

5 hours ago, wanderingmagus said:

we'll be lucky if there isn't a delayed reaction to the Ghost Dance

This sent a small shiver down my spine. I've had Shadowrun on my mind a lot, and that reminded me about the Great Ghost Dance. I hope the Great Ghost Dance doesn't happen in EGS. (For those unfamiliar with Shadowrun, the Great Ghost Dance was a massive magical ritual during the civil war between the many/all of the native American tribes/nations and the USA that caused wide spread damage, disrupted weather patterns for decades, and lead to the US being shattered into multiple smaller nations)

3 hours ago, Scotty said:

I can only guess that another system change happened when there was a significant magic related event taking place, such as an attack by a group of magic users on whatever library the robot was guarding, there might have been several robots like this but this one was the least destroyed when the system change finally hit.

That might also explain why the golem isn't more extensively damaged. It's only missing an eye and an arm, it has a crater in its chestplate and blast marks all down it's left side (Actually, it's kinda strange that all the damage is on one side of the golem)

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13 minutes ago, Drasvin said:

That might also explain why the golem isn't more extensively damaged. It's only missing an eye and an arm, it has a crater in its chestplate and blast marks all down it's left side (Actually, it's kinda strange that all the damage is on one side of the golem)

At least a couple possibilities suggest themselves to me. Either the damage resulted from crushing impact such as a fall and the damage we see is from where it impacted or it was caused by some kind of explosion and primarily damaged the side turned towards the explosion.

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3 hours ago, Drasvin said:

so if Ashley first several spells are learned from older system artifacts, then it's possible her personal magic system setting will get switched to that of an older system.

These artifacts might be from several different systems for all we know. Still, I suppose it is possible.

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2 hours ago, Vorlonagent said:

Poor Ashley.  She doesn't get any respect...

And that golem...If it is capable of repairing itself we simply must call him "Golempool".

Absolutely! I took one look and thought "Mecha Deadpool?!"

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4 hours ago, Drasvin said:

The golem looks human shaped to me. The head has roughly the same shape as a human skull with no mouth or nasal hole and the cheek bones and contours are smoothed. The eyes look like empty eye sockets with some kind of magical light inside them (or at least the one eye that is working). Also the golem has human-esque hands. Most uryuom I could find are depicted with 3 fingers plus a thumb and the golem has four fingers plus a thumb, like humans do. (There are a couple instances of Lavender being depicted with four fingers plus a thumb, but I personally attribute that to her having one or more forms that are highly styled around humans. Also she is a secretary. An additional finger is probably helpful in typing)

I was basing my assumption on the recent Q&A showing a beefy Uryuom, there is a resemblance to that and as I said, if humans created it, they could still have took inspiration from Uryuoms if they at the time believed Uryuoms to be a godlike or at least a superior race. And of course they could easily take liberties in certain aspects of the design.

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17 hours ago, Wanderer said:

Hope Ashley remembers that bit about the security system going off if she takes that wand out of the building.

As if it would matter at that point, after all the chaos other artifacts do meanwhile.

(Yes, I hope she will be able to keep the wand and have lot of interesting discussions with it.)

14 hours ago, wanderingmagus said:

So... is the Vatican informed yet? The Imperial Omyouji? The PRC and ROC? The Masons, the Golden Dawn, the Salem Coven, the Templar Order, every Rosicrucian and Pythagorian? Because for all we know, every Shabti in Egypt is about to come to life, along with the Teracotta Army, and that's not counting the "pagan artifacts" in the Vatican Archives and the Holy Relics, the obsidian daggers of Teotihuacan, the bloodied altars of Peru, the temples of Greece and Rome, every totem on every reservation in America... we'll be lucky if there isn't a delayed reaction to the Ghost Dance or a thousand and one curses flying out of the Tomb of Tutankhamun.

I would assume Vatican at least is on that list of allies Arthur plans to inform as soon as possible.

However, not all of those would activate. Presumably, some never worked and some lack the energy to work now. Not speaking about the Will of Magic saying that SOME artifact, although I'm not sure why just some.

12 hours ago, Scotty said:
17 hours ago, hkmaly said:

Or some of that damage could've happened WHILE it was inert.

The only evidence I have to support my theory is Pandora's memoirs of the warmongering horde suddenly loosing the ability to shoot fireballs from their hands as they were about to attack a village. I can only guess that another system change happened when there was a significant magic related event taking place, such as an attack by a group of magic users on whatever library the robot was guarding, there might have been several robots like this but this one was the least destroyed when the system change finally hit.

Why would attack of group of magic users on magic library force magic reset? All people involved already knows about magic, so no risk of it getting public.

Remember that no matter what damage it acquired before becoming inert, it could still acquire more while inert.

12 hours ago, CritterKeeper said:

So, Pandora said that the wand Tedd was making could hold a small arsenal of spells, including enough power to cast them.  I wonder how many spells this wand holds, and whether it has enough power to cast them even for a very low-power caster?  If power will be a limiting factor, is the wand smart enough to direct her to use the most efficient spells in the most effective manner?

I have better question: is the wand smart enough to not start blasting the library guardian before it will ACTUALLY become dangerous?

8 hours ago, Drasvin said:

Also she is a secretary. An additional finger is probably helpful in typing)

More like the human keyboards being optimized for ten fingers ...

8 hours ago, Drasvin said:
20 hours ago, hkmaly said:

... also, will her magic be the kind which can get stuck if someone is transformed too long?

Any spells she learns personally should be the current system, though she probably could pick up some older system spells from all the old artifacts activating around her. Then again, magic has shown that it can easily be confused about people, so if Ashley first several spells are learned from older system artifacts, then it's possible her personal magic system setting will get switched to that of an older system.

I was talking about spells she will learn FROM THE WAND.

Regarding switch ... is that issue? I would consider more likely she would be able to learn spells from all systems.

8 hours ago, Drasvin said:

And crazy idea just popped into my head. Have Ashley learn both the Cheerleadra spell and Nanase's Guardian form spell, then combo them together

She's not seer, she doesn't UNDERSTAND the spells. Now, Tedd could be able to combine those spells.

Of course, AFTER Nanase shows him the guardian form, which means someone needs to be in danger, she can't show it at will like other spells.

4 hours ago, Scotty said:

I was basing my assumption on the recent Q&A showing a beefy Uryuom, there is a resemblance to that and as I said, if humans created it, they could still have took inspiration from Uryuoms if they at the time believed Uryuoms to be a godlike or at least a superior race. And of course they could easily take liberties in certain aspects of the design.

I don't think humans KNEW Uryuoms before last reset, not speaking about how old could this golem be.

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52 minutes ago, hkmaly said:

I don't think humans KNEW Uryuoms before last reset, not speaking about how old could this golem be.

You can look at ancient sculptures and such in our own history and there are many humanoid examples that people speculate are the results of extraterrestrial encounters hundreds or thousands of years ago. Of course we don't have proof this is true because we haven't had any official recorded contact with aliens in modern times. In the Moperverse though, there are aliens living among humans and even hybrids exist albeit with some secrecy, so why couldn't there have been contact in ancient times? Maybe an event that lead to a system changed forced Uryuoms to leave Earth for a while and they only returned again in the last hundred years.

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1 hour ago, Scotty said:
2 hours ago, hkmaly said:

I don't think humans KNEW Uryuoms before last reset, not speaking about how old could this golem be.

You can look at ancient sculptures and such in our own history and there are many humanoid examples that people speculate are the results of extraterrestrial encounters hundreds or thousands of years ago. Of course we don't have proof this is true because we haven't had any official recorded contact with aliens in modern times. In the Moperverse though, there are aliens living among humans and even hybrids exist albeit with some secrecy, so why couldn't there have been contact in ancient times? Maybe an event that lead to a system changed forced Uryuoms to leave Earth for a while and they only returned again in the last hundred years.

Civilization capable of star travel is capable of record-keeping. Sure we don't know, but Edward only needs to ASK.

Note that there is no reason why would Uryuoms - who are not affected by magic resets - need to leave exactly after some reset. There is, of course, possibility that some Uryuoms were on earth before - likely not long-term and maybe not deliberately. But I don't think so because I think Uryuoms only acquired the ability to star travel recently: they only recently passed laws protecting freedom of religion and their technology doesn't seem to be so much better than Earth technology, with the exception of whatever they used for space travel of course.

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5 minutes ago, hkmaly said:

Civilization capable of star travel is capable of record-keeping. Sure we don't know, but Edward only needs to ASK.

Note that there is no reason why would Uryuoms - who are not affected by magic resets - need to leave exactly after some reset. There is, of course, possibility that some Uryuoms were on earth before - likely not long-term and maybe not deliberately. But I don't think so because I think Uryuoms only acquired the ability to star travel recently: they only recently passed laws protecting freedom of religion and their technology doesn't seem to be so much better than Earth technology, with the exception of whatever they used for space travel of course.

Uryuoms could have records, yes, but those records likely state that the reason they originally left was because there was some great conflict and they didn't want to get involved (note that in the SL universe, Uryuoms did get involved in the American revolution so that'd be a key difference between Uryuoms in that universe and Uryuoms in the main one), the lack of knowledge about system changes could be due to them not knowing that those were a thing, they could have bailed out just before the system change and not actually seen how the conflict ended.

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16 hours ago, Scotty said:
21 hours ago, Drasvin said:

The golem looks human shaped to me. The head has roughly the same shape as a human skull with no mouth or nasal hole and the cheek bones and contours are smoothed. The eyes look like empty eye sockets with some kind of magical light inside them (or at least the one eye that is working). Also the golem has human-esque hands. Most uryuom I could find are depicted with 3 fingers plus a thumb and the golem has four fingers plus a thumb, like humans do. (There are a couple instances of Lavender being depicted with four fingers plus a thumb, but I personally attribute that to her having one or more forms that are highly styled around humans. Also she is a secretary. An additional finger is probably helpful in typing)

I was basing my assumption on the recent Q&A showing a beefy Uryuom, there is a resemblance to that and as I said, if humans created it, they could still have took inspiration from Uryuoms if they at the time believed Uryuoms to be a godlike or at least a superior race. And of course they could easily take liberties in certain aspects of the design.

The only resemblances I see are basic size and shape (which aren't really distinctive of uryuoms. They're normally rather small) and the eyes. Though the white part on the eyes of Uryuom are simply the highlights from where the light reflects off of their eyes, which doesn't move when they look somewhere else. The white part of the golem's eye appears to change and shift without it moving where the golem is in relation to the lighting, implying something other than a highlight. Also another major difference I forgot to note, the Golem doesn't have a tail. Uryuoms have tails longer than their torsos. It's possible the tail could have been broken off, but I doubt it as all the damage appears to be on one side of the golem.

12 hours ago, hkmaly said:
21 hours ago, Drasvin said:

And crazy idea just popped into my head. Have Ashley learn both the Cheerleadra spell and Nanase's Guardian form spell, then combo them together

She's not seer, she doesn't UNDERSTAND the spells. Now, Tedd could be able to combine those spells.

Of course, AFTER Nanase shows him the guardian form, which means someone needs to be in danger, she can't show it at will like other spells.

I meant combo as in "cast one spell then cast the other." Earth magic enchantments can stack (as seen with the Escape from the Mall storyline), so I don't see any reason why she wouldn't be able to do that.

11 hours ago, Scotty said:

You can look at ancient sculptures and such in our own history and there are many humanoid examples that people speculate are the results of extraterrestrial encounters hundreds or thousands of years ago. Of course we don't have proof this is true because we haven't had any official recorded contact with aliens in modern times. In the Moperverse though, there are aliens living among humans and even hybrids exist albeit with some secrecy, so why couldn't there have been contact in ancient times? Maybe an event that lead to a system changed forced Uryuoms to leave Earth for a while and they only returned again in the last hundred years.

That's dependent on when uryuoms discovered interstellar travel (and when their explorers traveled to the Sol system for that matter. Space is big). They more than likely haven't had interstellar travel since the species first came into being, so they would have to have invented it at some point in their history. If their progression is similar to that of the Second Life uryuoms, then they could have arrived by the late 18th century, but other than speculation, there's no evidence that they could have arrived in an earlier time period. It's possible that the uryuom that fought in the SL American Revolution were an exploration team. Interstellar travel might even had been fairly new at that time. Even if interstellar travel wasn't new, space is big. The uryuom finding the Sol system before humans invent technology to broadcast signals beyond our atmosphere would require them to stumble across it. If they're specifically looking for other sapient life, they would still need to check every star system with a planet in the Habitable Zone and there's increasing evidence that planets around stars are really common. Also the strange art work and tales that lead people to speculate about ancient extraterrestrial encounters could easily be attributed to fairies and other strange magical beings in the EGS universe.

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2 hours ago, Drasvin said:

Also the strange art work and tales that lead people to speculate about ancient extraterrestrial encounters could easily be attributed to fairies and other strange magical beings in the EGS universe.

Don't mention von Däniken where @Pharaoh RutinTutin can hear. He doesn't like to be reminded of him. :danshiftyeyes:

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7 hours ago, Drasvin said:
20 hours ago, hkmaly said:
On 4/18/2018 at 6:11 PM, Drasvin said:

And crazy idea just popped into my head. Have Ashley learn both the Cheerleadra spell and Nanase's Guardian form spell, then combo them together

She's not seer, she doesn't UNDERSTAND the spells. Now, Tedd could be able to combine those spells.

Of course, AFTER Nanase shows him the guardian form, which means someone needs to be in danger, she can't show it at will like other spells.

I meant combo as in "cast one spell then cast the other." Earth magic enchantments can stack (as seen with the Escape from the Mall storyline), so I don't see any reason why she wouldn't be able to do that.

1) When under Guardian Form spell, you can't cast ANY other spell not part of that form.

2) Guardian Form will surely override any abilities Cheerleadra form could give, even if the form would still technically be under it.

3) The answer to earth magic enchantments stacking is definitive "it varies".

4) Ashley would currently probably be able to hold Guardian form for ten seconds top.

7 hours ago, Drasvin said:

Even if interstellar travel wasn't new, space is big. The uryuom finding the Sol system before humans invent technology to broadcast signals beyond our atmosphere would require them to stumble across it. If they're specifically looking for other sapient life, they would still need to check every star system with a planet in the Habitable Zone and there's increasing evidence that planets around stars are really common.

YES.

7 hours ago, Drasvin said:

Also the strange art work and tales that lead people to speculate about ancient extraterrestrial encounters could easily be attributed to fairies and other strange magical beings in the EGS universe.

I'm pretty sure it's mostly fairies. Didn't you noticed how bored they become?

 

 

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11 hours ago, Drasvin said:

If they're specifically looking for other sapient life, they would still need to check every star system with a planet in the Habitable Zone and there's increasing evidence that planets around stars are really common.

It kinda depends what sort of Habitable Zone you are looking for. Life might not be carbon based oxygen breathers everywhere. There has been some quite creative forms of sci fi at times with life very definitely NOT as we know it appearing in all sorts of places, ranging from ice worlds like Pluto through gas giants to the photosphere of the local Sun...

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8 hours ago, Drasvin said:

The only resemblances I see are basic size and shape (which aren't really distinctive of uryuoms. They're normally rather small) and the eyes. Though the white part on the eyes of Uryuom are simply the highlights from where the light reflects off of their eyes, which doesn't move when they look somewhere else. The white part of the golem's eye appears to change and shift without it moving where the golem is in relation to the lighting, implying something other than a highlight. Also another major difference I forgot to note, the Golem doesn't have a tail. Uryuoms have tails longer than their torsos. It's possible the tail could have been broken off, but I doubt it as all the damage appears to be on one side of the golem.

We haven't seen enough movement to truely rule our the eyes not reflecting light, the size of the white between the first and second panel could easily be attributed to the robot going from wide eye to squinty which could change the curvature of the eye itself and thus affect how it reflects light. A lack of tail and antennae could either be damage sure like it broke off if the robot fell backwards, but it might also be that the creators either didn't think those details were necessary or couldn't find any way to properly sculpt them (I would imaging the statue would be carved first and then enchanted).

8 hours ago, Drasvin said:

That's dependent on when uryuoms discovered interstellar travel (and when their explorers traveled to the Sol system for that matter. Space is big). They more than likely haven't had interstellar travel since the species first came into being, so they would have to have invented it at some point in their history. If their progression is similar to that of the Second Life uryuoms, then they could have arrived by the late 18th century, but other than speculation, there's no evidence that they could have arrived in an earlier time period. It's possible that the uryuom that fought in the SL American Revolution were an exploration team. Interstellar travel might even had been fairly new at that time. Even if interstellar travel wasn't new, space is big. The uryuom finding the Sol system before humans invent technology to broadcast signals beyond our atmosphere would require them to stumble across it. If they're specifically looking for other sapient life, they would still need to check every star system with a planet in the Habitable Zone and there's increasing evidence that planets around stars are really common. Also the strange art work and tales that lead people to speculate about ancient extraterrestrial encounters could easily be attributed to fairies and other strange magical beings in the EGS universe.

I like to think it's like how Stargate depicted ancient alien interactions with humans. the egyptian, greek, roman, and I think even some asian gods turned out to be all the same species of aliens (Guo'uld) and the Norse gods (the Asgard) were shown to have been the Grey aliens that were supposedly the aliens found in the Roswell incident, Uryuoms also resemble the Grey aliens. If Uryuoms had interstellar capability long before Humans started forming settlements and the basics of civilization, then it's possible that Uryuoms might have charted a decent portion of the galaxy and had found and visited Earth a long time ago.

As for the SL universe, we don't know how long Uryuoms would have been on Earth before the American revolution, I don't expect they would have appeared out of nowhere to help the Americans, but rather they likely have been coexisting with Americans for a while before, maybe the Uryuoms had been living with the First Nations people before Europeans came over, who knows, but in the main universe it would seem possible that there could have been a period of time where Uryuoms had cut off contact with Humans for some reason, but recently came back to check on things found that humanity had survived whatever happened.

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36 minutes ago, The Old Hack said:
12 hours ago, Drasvin said:

If they're specifically looking for other sapient life, they would still need to check every star system with a planet in the Habitable Zone and there's increasing evidence that planets around stars are really common.

It kinda depends what sort of Habitable Zone you are looking for. Life might not be carbon based oxygen breathers everywhere. There has been some quite creative forms of sci fi at times with life very definitely NOT as we know it appearing in all sorts of places, ranging from ice worlds like Pluto through gas giants to the photosphere of the local Sun...

While life doesn't need to be carbon based oxygen breathers, and might even exist in environment without liquid water,

1) Some of those creative forms are not really possible with our physical laws, and presumably EGS physical laws either

2) Communication with those exotic lifeforms might be impossible ; in fact, just NOTICING them might be hard

3) Uryuoms, being carbon based oxygen breathers requiring liquid water, would be most likely to search for lifeforms similar to themselves, which would include humans

4) ... unless they are smart, give up searching for life in general and even sapient life in general and just do the most logical thing of JUST LOOKING FOR RADIO.

Searching for radio signals allows you to cover much larger area and eliminate almost all false positives, as you can be almost sure that at the source of radio signals you will find life which is sapient, developed enough to understand the concept of other civilization from different planet, able to use math as base of communication and WILLING to communicate.

3 minutes ago, Scotty said:

I like to think it's like how Stargate depicted ancient alien interactions with humans. the egyptian, greek, roman, and I think even some asian gods turned out to be all the same species of aliens (Guo'uld) and the Norse gods (the Asgard) were shown to have been the Grey aliens that were supposedly the aliens found in the Roswell incident

You forget Ancients, who build the stargates and ENSURED ALL STARGATES ARE ON PLANETS WITH ENVIRONMENT SURVIVABLE FOR CARBON BASED OXYGEN BREATHERS (or at least were ; some planets lost that environment since the gates were build).

Anyway: We already have fairies. In EGS universe, fairies are much easier explanation of all the gods.

Also, all those signs of possible contact with extraterrestrials on our earth? Might not even EXIST in EGS universe. Sure, we generally assume that EGS universe is similar to our own, but we saw very little of it. Maybe it doesn't have any of the legends I mentioned either, it can have different ones.

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Oh, joy, I have identified another nit to pick!

Is there anything in canon that says that Uryuom actually come from a planet that is not another Earth? That is, we do have several canon examples of travel between alternate universes, but no spaceship has ever been shown any further away than Earth orbit.

If anyone is interested, I'd be up for starting a new topic about this and maybe other alien vs. paranormal questions in EGS.

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3 minutes ago, hkmaly said:

You forget Ancients, who build the stargates and ENSURED ALL STARGATES ARE ON PLANETS WITH ENVIRONMENT SURVIVABLE FOR CARBON BASED OXYGEN BREATHERS (or at least were ; some planets lost that environment since the gates were build).

Well yeah, and in Stargate Lore, the Ancients were allied with the Asgard as well as a couple other advanced races, and the Ancients were technically the first incarnation of Humans, with us being Homo Sapiens 2.0.

1 minute ago, hkmaly said:

Anyway: We already have fairies. In EGS universe, fairies are much easier explanation of all the gods.

Well yeah, Fairies would fit the bill in EGS, but that doesn't exclude Uryuoms from influencing humans in ancient times as well.

2 minutes ago, Tom Sewell said:

Oh, joy, I have identified another nit to pick!

Is there anything in canon that says that Uryuom actually come from a planet that is not another Earth? That is, we do have several canon examples of travel between alternate universes, but no spaceship has ever been shown any further away than Earth orbit.

If anyone is interested, I'd be up for starting a new topic about this and maybe other alien vs. paranormal questions in EGS.

We only have "Tam Eh Tedd" where Gillian states their species is from another planet, and then in the flashback William mentions the "parent planet". I don't see any reason why Dan would hold off on them actually being from another reality this long.

 

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25 minutes ago, hkmaly said:

4) ... unless they are smart, give up searching for life in general and even sapient life in general and just do the most logical thing of JUST LOOKING FOR RADIO.

Most logical at our stage of development. Maybe in a century we will be looking for hyper-tachyonic quantum bosons, or something. Or super communications x-ray lasers. Or modulated gravitational pulses. Or smoke signals by waving a blanket above supernovae. Who knows.

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2 hours ago, Tom Sewell said:

Oh, joy, I have identified another nit to pick!

Is there anything in canon that says that Uryuom actually come from a planet that is not another Earth? That is, we do have several canon examples of travel between alternate universes, but no spaceship has ever been shown any further away than Earth orbit.

If anyone is interested, I'd be up for starting a new topic about this and maybe other alien vs. paranormal questions in EGS.

... well, they DO talk about the parent planet and never mention another dimension, but it's true we don't exactly know that much more ...

2 hours ago, The Old Hack said:
2 hours ago, hkmaly said:

4) ... unless they are smart, give up searching for life in general and even sapient life in general and just do the most logical thing of JUST LOOKING FOR RADIO.

Most logical at our stage of development. Maybe in a century we will be looking for hyper-tachyonic quantum bosons, or something. Or super communications x-ray lasers. Or modulated gravitational pulses. Or smoke signals by waving a blanket above supernovae. Who knows.

True. But still, deliberate communication signals.

Actually, those lasers ... no way. Lasers are focused, point-to-point, not omnidirectional. Not much chance to detect them. But yes, we can already search in other areas of electromagnetic spectrum (which would include those blanket-over-supernovae) and technically we are already trying to detect gravitational pulses. Our methods to detect gravitational pulses will go better and we can start looking for tachyons or neutrinos or anything else, ESPECIALLY if we find something capable of FTL communication.

We will probably STILL also search for radio because we would WANT to catch any civilization entering the radio stage of development.

 

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Just now, hkmaly said:

... well, they DO talk about the parent planet and never mention another dimension, but it's true we don't exactly know that much more ...

I think Dan's being vague about where they're from for the same reason he's been vague about when the last magic change was or how old Pandora was.

Though there isn't much reason to do so for Uryuoms, unless Dan is worried that he'd have to be accurate about the planet, like if he randomly picked a star and said they came from a planet around that, he might get emails saying that there's no known planet, of the known planets around it couldn't possibly support life, or something like that.

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