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Normally, if Elliot would be able to punch this fast, he would be stronger, because force = distance x time ... but superheroes have all sorts of build-in exceptions ...

Also, superheroes generally don't get dizzy when moving fast :), but that would likely be one of those exceptions.

 

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1 hour ago, hkmaly said:

http://egscomics.com/egsnp/shs-12

Normally, if Elliot would be able to punch this fast, he would be stronger, because force = distance x time ... but superheroes have all sorts of build-in exceptions ...

If you mean in a physics sense, it's F=ma; distance in the correct position, but mass is a factor, and it's a double derivative of time, so / t^2 rather than x t.

 

1 hour ago, hkmaly said:

Also, superheroes generally don't get dizzy when moving fast :), but that would likely be one of those exceptions.

She must be very strong, or she would have snapped her neck; see above. That's how Spidey killed Gwen, iirc.

 

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3 hours ago, Darth Fluffy said:

She must be very strong, or she would have snapped her neck; see above. That's how Spidey killed Gwen, iirc.

In retrospect that is one of these stories where realism suddenly gets randomly inserted for the sake of drama. The writers meant well, but before that, Spidey had saved tons of people like that with no bad effects worth mentioning. But all of a sudden realism because Gwen Stacy had to die. Sigh.

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2 hours ago, The Old Hack said:

In retrospect that is one of these stories where realism suddenly gets randomly inserted for the sake of drama. The writers meant well, but before that, Spidey had saved tons of people like that with no bad effects worth mentioning. But all of a sudden realism because Gwen Stacy had to die. Sigh.

I feel the same way about the dizziness in this EGS comic. It really doesn't seem to fit. Sigh, indeed.

On the other hand, "I haven't figured out how to land properly" is funny, and makes some sense; also it's not like she can't, she just needs to work on it.

 

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Flying in circles makes Elliot dizzy?

Super types absolutely MUST NOT become dizzy.

Obviously the kids need to watch the Lynda Carter Super Hero Tutorial Videos.

Fighting for your rights
In your satin tights

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17 hours ago, Darth Fluffy said:

I feel the same way about the dizziness in this EGS comic. It really doesn't seem to fit. Sigh, indeed.

On the other hand, "I haven't figured out how to land properly" is funny, and makes some sense; also it's not like she can't, she just needs to work on it.

 

Everyone forgets that the main goal of landing is to contact the ground at the lowest relative speed possible.

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5 minutes ago, ijuin said:

Everyone forgets that the main goal of landing is to contact the ground at the lowest relative speed possible.

I dunno, I rank 'feet first', 'impact absorption' and 'avoiding sharp surfaces' pretty high, too.

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On 8/13/2019 at 3:26 AM, Darth Fluffy said:
On 8/13/2019 at 1:42 AM, hkmaly said:

http://egscomics.com/egsnp/shs-12

Normally, if Elliot would be able to punch this fast, he would be stronger, because force = distance x time ... but superheroes have all sorts of build-in exceptions ...

If you mean in a physics sense, it's F=ma; distance in the correct position, but mass is a factor, and it's a double derivative of time, so / t^2 rather than x t.

... I'm not making mistakes like this often, must've been really sleepy ...

Anyway, the point was that speed is related to force. Although in physics sense, the correct formula might been Ek = ½mv2 ... because we care less about actual force and more about caused damage.

11 hours ago, Scotty said:
18 hours ago, Darth Fluffy said:

I feel the same way about the dizziness in this EGS comic. It really doesn't seem to fit. Sigh, indeed.

Well, it fits because it happened to Nanase as well. You'd figure that being a fairy would have some perks against that sort of thing too right?

Well, Nanase REALLY overdid it there. In fact, so did Elliot ... it's likely their resistance to getting dizzy is much higher than for normal people, but still has limits.

31 minutes ago, The Old Hack said:
39 minutes ago, ijuin said:

Everyone forgets that the main goal of landing is to contact the ground at the lowest relative speed possible.

I dunno, I rank 'feet first', 'impact absorption' and 'avoiding sharp surfaces' pretty high, too.

That's only if you fail in main goal.

If you land with zero speed, there is no impact. Landing with your back on bed of nails, if done with low enough speed, is safe.

Now, if you either fail to land at lowest relative speed possible or if that lowest speed is still too high, you need to care about "impact absorption", "avoiding sharp surfaces" and ... hmmm ... yeah, feet first, although you shouldn't insist on standing on those feets.

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24 minutes ago, The Old Hack said:
26 minutes ago, hkmaly said:

If you land with zero speed, there is no impact.

If your relative velocity to something is zero, you are not ever going to get closer to it anyway.

Landing with zero speed means limd->0v = 0, where d is distance and v is speed obviously.

Well ... technically, ANY landing is this, but the idea is to manage this in way which doesn't involve high deceleration.

Also, yes, in reality, it would never be zero, because reality is quantified, not continuous, and you need to traverse last planck length with nonzero speed. However, also in reality, if the speed is under measurement error it could count as zero.

(Wait. Quantified? Quantized? Quant-something else? ... made from quantums.)

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3 hours ago, ijuin said:

Everyone forgets that the main goal of landing is to contact the ground at the lowest relative speed possible.

There is a tongue in cheek expression, "Any landing you can walk away from is a good one.".

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1 hour ago, Darth Fluffy said:
4 hours ago, ijuin said:

Everyone forgets that the main goal of landing is to contact the ground at the lowest relative speed possible.

There is a tongue in cheek expression, "Any landing you can walk away from is a good one.".

There is also Launchpad McQuack, who walked from every of his "landings" ...

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While he has crashed hundreds of times, Launchpad also has shown the uncanny ability to operate any craft or vehicle, on land, sea, air, underground, or in space, no matter how unfamiliar the handling or controls may seem, and usually on the first attempt. This, plus his high tolerance for risk without asking for hazard pay, is why people like Scrooge McDuck make him their pilot of choice for unconventional missions.

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2 hours ago, hkmaly said:

There is also Launchpad McQuack, who walked from every of his "landings" ...

Given that on many occasions this was from barely operable aircraft that had lost 99% of all guidance and/or motive power, I am still going to pick Launchpad over any other pilot if I am ever aboard an aircraft in trouble.

Does gravity count as the last percent of motive power, by the way? :icon_eek:

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13 minutes ago, The Old Hack said:
2 hours ago, hkmaly said:

There is also Launchpad McQuack, who walked from every of his "landings" ...

Given that on many occasions this was from barely operable aircraft that had lost 99% of all guidance and/or motive power, I am still going to pick Launchpad over any other pilot if I am ever aboard an aircraft in trouble.

Given that in all occassions I remember his PASSENGERS also walked away from the "landing", I second that.

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1 hour ago, The Old Hack said:

Given that on many occasions this was from barely operable aircraft that had lost 99% of all guidance and/or motive power, I am still going to pick Launchpad over any other pilot if I am ever aboard an aircraft in trouble.

Does gravity count as the last percent of motive power, by the way? :icon_eek:

It certainly does. If the aircraft were designed without an engine, in other words, a glider, gravity is providing the forward motion needed to produce lift. When engines fail, all airplanes become gliders; though some are better at it than others. (Some, you d@#% well better bail out of.) The space shuttles landed as gliders, although not very good ones, more like controlled falling.

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12 minutes ago, Darth Fluffy said:

It certainly does. If the aircraft were designed without an engine, in other words, a glider, gravity is providing the forward motion needed to produce lift. When engines fail, all airplanes become gliders; though some are better at it than others. (Some, you d@#% well better bail out of.) The space shuttles landed as gliders, although not very good ones, more like controlled falling.

Thank you! I actually wasn't sure if that counted. I remember the space shuttles landing; I was absolutely fascinated. They were a science fiction dream coming true for young me.

As to engine failure, this is one of my favourite moments in Girl Genius.

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9 hours ago, Darth Fluffy said:

When engines fail, all airplanes become gliders; though some are better at it than others.

And not always conveniently close to Gimli.

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