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If she's this excited over seeing Grace in full-squirrel form, then I wonder how she'll react to finding out that thanks to Tedd's magitech or Ellen's beams, she herself can experience being transformed?

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Well that answers the question of if Grace can resize her clothing to fit even her full squirrel form, though based on commentary Dan was planning on having her be limited to how far she could go with it until he saw people express interest in seeing it happen. At least he seems to have stuff for later planned that this would fit with.

Also, someone on Twitter asked about Grace's weight and how she used to be 160 lbs regardless of form:

https://twitter.com/elgoonishshive/status/1176703943084298240

I don't believe it was ever mentioned before that Grace's brothers might have trolled Grace about her weight not changing with her form, so yay new info?

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16 minutes ago, Pharaoh RutinTutin said:

Susan and Diane better show up soon

This much cuteness needs a massive dose of awkwardness to offset

Yes, we know that Susan is immune to Grace Squirrel cuteness.   See here for proof.

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2 hours ago, Scotty said:

Well that answers the question of if Grace can resize her clothing to fit even her full squirrel form, though based on commentary Dan was planning on having her be limited to how far she could go with it until he saw people express interest in seeing it happen. At least he seems to have stuff for later planned that this would fit with.

Also, someone on Twitter asked about Grace's weight and how she used to be 160 lbs regardless of form:

https://twitter.com/elgoonishshive/status/1176703943084298240

I don't believe it was ever mentioned before that Grace's brothers might have trolled Grace about her weight not changing with her form, so yay new info?

In both cases of being in squirrel form, the current comic and the one you link, it is pretty clear that Dan took artistic license and sent Grace's 160 lbs into hyperspace. Neither Sarah nor Ashley is straining to hold her.

One of the problems of shrinking and having the same mass is the weight per unit area of your areas of contact increases. Grace is probably not up to punch through the flooring stress levels on her feet, but she should be leaving deep (but cute) footprints in anything soft. The feet themselves should not have a problem, the cell density would presumably not change, the cells would also shrink, so the foot would not feel all that much different, other than the material under it would give more.

The Of Mice and Men quote applies ++ to Ashley. Let's hope this ends better than the book did.

 

1 hour ago, Pharaoh RutinTutin said:

Susan and Diane better show up soon

This much cuteness needs a massive dose of awkwardness to offset

This much cuteness is a health hazard, you can see the effects on Ashley. Notice how her eyes have dilated and swollen, and she's seeing star shaped spots before her eyes. I believe it's a visual effect related to diabetes.

As dwarves all know, trees are conspiring against us, and where do squirrels dwell? They are clearly in on the conspiracy, I tell ya.

Is it any wonder our loyal canine companions, in their efforts to ensure our safety, diligently pursue these threats to our well being.

 

 

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So, I had been assuming Grace would shrink out of her clothes. This would mean that when she resumed humanoid form she would be naked. If she went straight to human Dan would have needed to skip to after she'd gotten dressed, or call in the Angelic Tweeting Bird. On the other hand she might have chosen to go to part-squirrel form; this would not only allow her to show Ashley her birth form but also remove the need for any censorship. She might even have chosen to stay squirrely and naked for some time, which I think would have been cool.

However, all this save the skip-to-when-she's-dressed option rely on Dan's feeling comfortable right now with non-explicit nudity in the comic. And what with Grace's already stated views on nudity, I can see how Dan could have written himself into a position where the direction that was most natural for the story to go in would be counter to what he was comfortable with.

Reading the commentary, I have to wonder if any  of this has anything to do with the "future things" Dan talks about in the commentary; at the very least I'm guessing the post-transformation-nudity is where the awkwardness he mentions would have come in.

(Incidentally, I personally don't like how that outfit looks on squirrel Grace. It looks nice enough on humanoid Grace, but in this form it looks incredibly dull. Of course it doesn't help that I've never been a fan of non-humanoid animals wearing clothes; it almost always winds up looking silly and out of place to me.)

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17 hours ago, ijuin said:

If she's this excited over seeing Grace in full-squirrel form, then I wonder how she'll react to finding out that thanks to Tedd's magitech or Ellen's beams, she herself can experience being transformed?

... although probably not to squirrel. I think Tedd still didn't get over the TF gun limit and won't get over it until he will observe one of Rhoda's spell going over that limit.

Wait. ELLEN can go over the limit.

14 hours ago, mlooney said:

I think that is the cutest we've seen Grace in a while.  More so than the time she squirreled in the hotel room with Sara and Susan.

Disagree. I think that she was cuter in Hammerchlorians.

9 hours ago, Darth Fluffy said:

In both cases of being in squirrel form, the current comic and the one you link, it is pretty clear that Dan took artistic license and sent Grace's 160 lbs into hyperspace. Neither Sarah nor Ashley is straining to hold her.

One of the problems of shrinking and having the same mass is the weight per unit area of your areas of contact increases. Grace is probably not up to punch through the flooring stress levels on her feet, but she should be leaving deep (but cute) footprints in anything soft. The feet themselves should not have a problem, the cell density would presumably not change, the cells would also shrink, so the foot would not feel all that much different, other than the material under it would give more.

Both of those cases were AFTER Grace's shapeshifting was fixed by TF gun. Maybe she WAS leaving footprints before?

8 hours ago, ChronosCat said:

So, I had been assuming Grace would shrink out of her clothes. This would mean that when she resumed humanoid form she would be naked. If she went straight to human Dan would have needed to skip to after she'd gotten dressed, or call in the Angelic Tweeting Bird. On the other hand she might have chosen to go to part-squirrel form; this would not only allow her to show Ashley her birth form but also remove the need for any censorship. She might even have chosen to stay squirrely and naked for some time, which I think would have been cool.

However, all this save the skip-to-when-she's-dressed option rely on Dan's feeling comfortable right now with non-explicit nudity in the comic. And what with Grace's already stated views on nudity, I can see how Dan could have written himself into a position where the direction that was most natural for the story to go in would be counter to what he was comfortable with.

Reading the commentary, I have to wonder if any  of this has anything to do with the "future things" Dan talks about in the commentary; at the very least I'm guessing the post-transformation-nudity is where the awkwardness he mentions would have come in.

(Incidentally, I personally don't like how that outfit looks on squirrel Grace. It looks nice enough on humanoid Grace, but in this form it looks incredibly dull. Of course it doesn't help that I've never been a fan of non-humanoid animals wearing clothes; it almost always winds up looking silly and out of place to me.)

... and I was hoping Dan is getting more comfortable with nudity ...

I totally agree that the clothes don't look good on full-squirrel Grace. However, note that it's totally possible even Grace who likes being nude would try to avoid that to not scare Ashley, who's opinion on nudity is not known yet.

4 hours ago, Drasvin said:

I think every time Dan has drawn Grace's full squirrel form, he's done it differently. Then again, master shapeshifters don't need to be 100% consistent.

Actually, given that Grace needs to explicitly mix and match forms, and she likely doesn't have anything to mix with her squirrel form, I would say she SHOULD look exactly same as squirrel. Of course, Susan also looks differently: compare this and this ... it's only less apparent because we had time to get used to the gradual art change.

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1 hour ago, hkmaly said:

Both of those cases were AFTER Grace's shapeshifting was fixed by TF gun. Maybe she WAS leaving footprints before?

Really doesn't matter how she shapeshifted (unless it affects ...), it's a question of the mass changing or not. I think Dan took artistic license that indicates rightly or wrongly that her mass changed as well.

 

1 hour ago, hkmaly said:

I totally agree that the clothes don't look good on full-squirrel Grace.

Meh, it was a different look, I can empathize with Dan trying it out. I agree, I like the squirrel as a squirrel look better.

 

1 hour ago, hkmaly said:

However, note that it's totally possible even Grace who likes being nude would try to avoid that to not scare Ashley, who's opinion on nudity is not known yet.

I dunno, I've seen plenty of nude squirrels, it doesn't do much for me. Seem to excite the dogs, but they appear to prefer chewing on them to humping them, and that's saying a lot.

 

 

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30 minutes ago, Darth Fluffy said:
2 hours ago, hkmaly said:

Both of those cases were AFTER Grace's shapeshifting was fixed by TF gun. Maybe she WAS leaving footprints before?

Really doesn't matter how she shapeshifted (unless it affects ...), it's a question of the mass changing or not. I think Dan took artistic license that indicates rightly or wrongly that her mass changed as well.

Dan specifically SAID that Grace being transformed by TF gun for first time changed how she shapeshifts: it made it easier and allowed her to change mass. Of course, he only did so to explain how he first said she preserves her mass and then realized it would be too inconvenient.

43 minutes ago, Darth Fluffy said:
2 hours ago, hkmaly said:

However, note that it's totally possible even Grace who likes being nude would try to avoid that to not scare Ashley, who's opinion on nudity is not known yet.

I dunno, I've seen plenty of nude squirrels, it doesn't do much for me. Seem to excite the dogs, but they appear to prefer chewing on them to humping them, and that's saying a lot.

... funny, however I was talking about her later turning back to human - or half-squirrel - when the nudity would mattered.

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12 hours ago, Tom Sewell said:

fashion for squirrels?

Squirrels are already unbearably cute

If they chose to dress, they would be fashion obsessed and spending all their resources on the latest styles

They would turn from petty annoyances into thieves, stealing to acquire the means to acquire designer labels

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7 hours ago, Pharaoh RutinTutin said:
20 hours ago, Tom Sewell said:

fashion for squirrels?

Squirrels are already unbearably cute

If they chose to dress, they would be fashion obsessed and spending all their resources on the latest styles

They would turn from petty annoyances into thieves, stealing to acquire the means to acquire designer labels

I think squirrels wouldn't be that effective thieves no matter the motivation. They wouldn't be able to carry much cash nor withdraw it from ATM when they manage to steal credit card.

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1 hour ago, hkmaly said:

I think squirrels wouldn't be that effective thieves no matter the motivation. They wouldn't be able to carry much cash nor withdraw it from ATM when they manage to steal credit card.

THEY'LL STEAL YOUR NUTS, MAN!!!

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7 hours ago, hkmaly said:

Yes, they are quite effective in stealing nuts. Cash or credit, not so.

I love that "They're really tree rats, aren't they?" said in a nonchalant British accent.

 

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