np NP Wednesday, Dec 18, 2019

[ChronosCat 155]

14 hours ago, The Old Hack said:

Yeah, but the point is, these are some of the first movies that broke the pattern and helped prove that female-led and Black-led movies can indeed make money. Wonder Woman may have been the first, but even that was not until fairly recently.

They proved that movies about female and/or (or at least "or") black superheroes can make money. One frustrating thing is that non-superhero movies (even non-superhero action movies) with females as the main characters had made money before, but the movie studios apparently found excuses why they didn't count as proof that such movies could make money in the future.

(The first examples I can think of is the first the first two Alien movies; I have to wonder if the studios thought those were flukes, or that the Xenomorph was the star of those movies. Another pair of movies that I think of as starring a woman are the first two Terminator movies, but it's pretty clear that as far as the studios were concerned Schwarzenegger was the star, not Hamilton.)

[The Old Hack 2,448]

9 minutes ago, ChronosCat said:

(The first examples I can think of is the first the first two Alien movies; I have to wonder if the studios thought those were flukes, or that the Xenomorph was the star of those movies. Another pair of movies that I think of as starring a woman are the first two Terminator movies, but it's pretty clear that as far as the studios were concerned Schwarzenegger was the star, not Hamilton.)

They used bullshit excuses. Does it really matter which ones they used?

[ChronosCat 155]

*shrug* Not really, but that doesn't stop me from being curious.

[Darth Fluffy 302]

3 hours ago, ChronosCat said:

*shrug* Not really, but that doesn't stop me from being curious.

Which is in-character and hasn't killed you (yet).

[ijuin 572]

It was incaution that killed the cat. Curiosity was framed.

[hkmaly 490]

8 hours ago, ChronosCat said:

The first examples I can think of is the first the first two Alien movies; I have to wonder if the studios thought those were flukes, or that the Xenomorph was the star of those movies. Another pair of movies that I think of as starring a woman are the first two Terminator movies, but it's pretty clear that as far as the studios were concerned Schwarzenegger was the star, not Hamilton.

It's less clear for first one, but I find quite obvious that the main star of second terminator movie was Schwarzenegger. However that excuse for Aliens would really be interesting.

[The Old Hack 2,448]

3 hours ago, hkmaly said:

It's less clear for first one, but I find quite obvious that the main star of second terminator movie was Schwarzenegger. However that excuse for Aliens would really be interesting.

It would take a LOT of flexibility even for a Hollywood producer to claim that Schwarzenegger was the main star of Aliens. Still, I can actually imagine them trying.

[Darth Fluffy 302]

37 minutes ago, The Old Hack said:

It would take a LOT of flexibility even for a Hollywood producer to claim that Schwarzenegger was the main star of Aliens. Still, I can actually imagine them trying.

I hear he's going to star in a historical documentary on the life of a famous composer. He'll be Bach.