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4 minutes ago, mlooney said:

Here is.

Back with Rhoda and Catalina, who seem to think Susan is naked.

I have to be honest, I'm not tracking Dan's thinking here. Are these Schrödinger 's clothes? I feel like something is being lamp shaded, and I'm not in on what.

 

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13 minutes ago, Darth Fluffy said:
23 minutes ago, mlooney said:

Back with Rhoda and Catalina, who seem to think Susan is naked.

I have to be honest, I'm not tracking Dan's thinking here. Are these Schrödinger 's clothes? I feel like something is being lamp shaded, and I'm not in on what.

What Susan is wearing is what a character wears when all "equipment" clothes are removed.  With the "Never Nude" flag turned on she shows with underwear.  That is what I'm assuming based on what The Dan has said before in this story line.

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15 minutes ago, Darth Fluffy said:

I'm not tracking Dan's thinking here

I'm not a Video Game expert myself, but I have a hunch that I'm an intuitive formal logician, so let me take a stab at this
If appearing in underwear is how anyone without clothes in the game appears, then to anyone in the game, anyone wearing only underwear is naked

Now if our reality is itself a simulation, one might wonder what kind of filters are in effect that cause us to be shocked or offended by things that are effectively black bars or euphamisms to the observers one level up

 

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12 minutes ago, Pharaoh RutinTutin said:

I'm not a Video Game expert myself, but I have a hunch that I'm an intuitive formal logician, so let me take a stab at this
If appearing in underwear is how anyone without clothes in the game appears, then to anyone in the game, anyone wearing only underwear is naked

That's pretty much how I took it to mean.

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48 minutes ago, mlooney said:

What Susan is wearing is what a character wears when all "equipment" clothes are removed.  With the "Never Nude" flag turned on she shows with underwear.  That is what I'm assuming based on what The Dan has said before in this story line.

That much I got. I guess I'm taking in-game unremovable underwear at face value. For me, the question boils down to, "Why should it be otherwise?" The comic implies that Cat does not even see the underwear, nor Rhoda, who is not wearing more herself.

Naked: "You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it does."

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10 minutes ago, Darth Fluffy said:

The comic implies that Cat does not even see the underwear, nor Rhoda, who is not wearing more herself.

I suspect that Rhoda's tube top and short shorts are equipable clothing and if she was to remove it she would actually end up with what Susan is wearing, never mind the fact that those "underwear" actually show less skin than the "overwear" top she is currently wearing.   I'm just assuming that, I could be wrong.

 

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8 hours ago, mlooney said:
9 hours ago, Darth Fluffy said:
9 hours ago, mlooney said:

Back with Rhoda and Catalina, who seem to think Susan is naked.

I have to be honest, I'm not tracking Dan's thinking here. Are these Schrödinger 's clothes? I feel like something is being lamp shaded, and I'm not in on what.

What Susan is wearing is what a character wears when all "equipment" clothes are removed.  With the "Never Nude" flag turned on she shows with underwear.  That is what I'm assuming based on what The Dan has said before in this story line.

Assuming? I would consider this directly confirmed by previous comics.

8 hours ago, Pharaoh RutinTutin said:

Now if our reality is itself a simulation, one might wonder what kind of filters are in effect that cause us to be shocked or offended by things that are effectively black bars or euphamisms to the observers one level up

7 hours ago, Darth Fluffy said:
8 hours ago, mlooney said:

What Susan is wearing is what a character wears when all "equipment" clothes are removed.  With the "Never Nude" flag turned on she shows with underwear.  That is what I'm assuming based on what The Dan has said before in this story line.

That much I got. I guess I'm taking in-game unremovable underwear at face value. For me, the question boils down to, "Why should it be otherwise?" The comic implies that Cat does not even see the underwear, nor Rhoda, who is not wearing more herself.

Naked: "You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it does."

Yeah, there are two options: Either the "Never Nude" underwear is some filter on higher meta level and Susan is only one seeing it, OR other people technically also see it but because it's as much nude as you can get, they consider it being nude.

7 hours ago, mlooney said:

I suspect that Rhoda's tube top and short shorts are equipable clothing and if she was to remove it she would actually end up with what Susan is wearing, never mind the fact that those "underwear" actually show less skin than the "overwear" top she is currently wearing.   I'm just assuming that, I could be wrong.

Certainly. If Rhoda's tube top wouldn't be equipable it would look EXACTLY as Susan's underwear. And that it shows more skin? Videogame logic.

(Also, maybe Japanese edition has smaller "Never Nude" underwear. I read article about games like that.)

 

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4 minutes ago, hkmaly said:
7 hours ago, mlooney said:

I suspect that Rhoda's tube top and short shorts are equipable clothing and if she was to remove it she would actually end up with what Susan is wearing, never mind the fact that those "underwear" actually show less skin than the "overwear" top she is currently wearing.   I'm just assuming that, I could be wrong.

Certainly. If Rhoda's tube top wouldn't be equipable it would look EXACTLY as Susan's underwear. And that it shows more skin? Videogame logic.

(Also, maybe Japanese edition has smaller "Never Nude" underwear. I read article about games like that.)

Are you saying that the Japanese edition of Fable has different versions of the basic  character models?  That strikes me as a bit odd. 

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51 minutes ago, mlooney said:

Are you saying that the Japanese edition of Fable has different versions of the basic  character models?  That strikes me as a bit odd. 

Fable, probably not. There are differences in game costumes in other games, though. Can't find the exact case with changed "under-equipable-clothes-underwear" I remember, but see these examples:

 

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12 minutes ago, hkmaly said:

Fable, probably not. There are differences in game costumes in other games, though. Can't find the exact case with changed "under-equipable-clothes-underwear" I remember, but see these examples:

 

Is Fable a Japanese game that was ported to English or did it start out English?

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29 minutes ago, mlooney said:
44 minutes ago, hkmaly said:

Fable, probably not. There are differences in game costumes in other games, though. Can't find the exact case with changed "under-equipable-clothes-underwear" I remember, but see these examples:

Is Fable a Japanese game that was ported to English or did it start out English?

Well I don't know for sure but it was produced by British video game developer studio ...

Of course, this game is not Fable. It's (checks arc name) Parable. So something completely different. :)

Maybe in EGS universe, Parable IS originally Japanese game and replacing the big boobs with the blue lines was something done between original and international version due to censorship.

Or, maybe in EGS universe britain is not so prudish due to Noriko's influence ... you know, stuff like saving Queen's life three times ...

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1 hour ago, hkmaly said:

Well I don't know for sure but it was produced by British video game developer studio ...

Of course, this game is not Fable. It's (checks arc name) Parable. So something completely different.

So if there was a change in the art style for the non English speaking world it would be a bit odd.  I know this story line isn't about Fable as such, but The Dan sure seems to reference it a lot.

 

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