Discussion of Military, real or fictional

[mlooney 3,823]

15 hours ago, Don Edwards said:

Or so they hope.

They seem to be missing the fact that the Ukrainians can just drone attack the barrier and, when it goes down, swarm the fleet.  I don't think the Russian navy has absorbed the realities of drone warfare like their army has.

For that matter, any navy.  The US Navy is still pretty clueless when it comes to drone attacks.

[Darth Fluffy 377]

23 hours ago, mlooney said:

They seem to be missing the fact that the Ukrainians can just drone attack the barrier and, when it goes down, swarm the fleet.  I don't think the Russian navy has absorbed the realities of drone warfare like their army has.

For that matter, any navy.  The US Navy is still pretty clueless when it comes to drone attacks.

It is my understanding that we have installed some defenses. Probably not enough.

[The Old Hack 2,514]

3 hours ago, Darth Fluffy said:

It is my understanding that we have installed some defenses. Probably not enough.

I am sure that a squad of 13 men and a 37mm anti-tank gun will be enough to deter Germany from invading Denmark.

(This was what we actually fielded against the Germans when they crossed the border to Denmark on April 9, 1940. It did not end well. We did manage to take out a Panzer I at the head of the German column, mind you, a loss I am sure completely crippled the future German war effort.)

[The Old Hack 2,514]

The convicted felon in the Oval Office has decided to build two new battleships for the US Navy.

Battleships.

I am sure they will not at all be obsolete from the moment the keels are laid and I look forward to the new vessels USS Inadvisable and USS Defaulted.

[Pharaoh RutinTutin 1,667]

 

How much would it cost to haul 2 battle ships out from the moth ball fleet, gold plate them, and mount them in New York harbor? 

 

[mlooney 3,823]

50 minutes ago, Pharaoh RutinTutin said:

 

How much would it cost to haul 2 battle ships out from the moth ball fleet, gold plate them, and mount them in New York harbor? 

 

I don't think they are even in the moth ball fleet any more.

[The Old Hack 2,514]

Anyway I was wrong.

It wasn't two battleships.

It was twenty-five.

Twenty-five.

I don't think the US had twenty-five battleships at the height of World War Two.

Trump is a fucking moron and the people who enable him are a disgrace to the United States.

[mlooney 3,823]

2 big cruisers, which is what the ships he is wanting would be called in the US Navy now, might make it through Congress.  25?  No fucking way.  The man is on drugs.  Actually that would explain a lot.

[The Old Hack 2,514]

Senator Mike Lee of Utah has just proposed reintroducing letters of marque and reprisal so private US citizens may be empowered to go after enemies of the US. A grand return to the age of piracy on the high seas. There is no possible way this could in any form or shape go wrong! Arrrrrrr!

(Someone mentioned planting something illegal on some billionaire's megayacht and using that as an excuse for seizing it, plundering it and haul it off for selling in some neutral country, and this has caused me to be on the verge of being in favour of this insane idea. Where's my One Piece pirate flag?)

[mlooney 3,823]

The US Constitution does give Congress the right to issue them.  It's never been revoked.

[Don Edwards 581]

My understanding has been that some treaty that the US is party to doesn't allow them.

However, I don't know what treaty that would be. And it's likely that it would only apply to privateering against the ships of other countries party to the treaty.

[The Old Hack 2,514]

2 hours ago, Don Edwards said:

My understanding has been that some treaty that the US is party to doesn't allow them.

And precisely how would that be any sort of constraint on the demented orange howler baboon? It is not exactly as if it has a history of respecting preexisting treaties or agreements of any kind.

[mlooney 3,823]

Russian Court Demands $29 Million from Ukrainian Navy Officer for Sinking of Moskva Missile Cruiser

https://militarnyi.com/en/news/russian-court-demands-29-million-from-ukrainian-navy-officer-for-sinking-of-moskva-missile-cruiser/

For some reason it will not let me embed the image, even if I go into source mode.  I think it's on the blog's end to prevent hot linking.

[The Old Hack 2,514]

Um, has it become accepted norm to bill the enemy for losses you sustain during a war you started? Will we be seeing Japan sue the estate of Admiral Nimitz for the loss of four fleet carriers during the Battle of Midway?

[mlooney 3,823]

8 hours ago, The Old Hack said:

Um, has it become accepted norm to bill the enemy for losses you sustain during a war you started? Will we be seeing Japan sue the estate of Admiral Nimitz for the loss of four fleet carriers during the Battle of Midway?

No, but Russia isn't at war; they are just doing a “special military action” that is only gonna last 3 days four years.

[ijuin 611]

14 hours ago, The Old Hack said:

Um, has it become accepted norm to bill the enemy for losses you sustain during a war you started? Will we be seeing Japan sue the estate of Admiral Nimitz for the loss of four fleet carriers during the Battle of Midway?

Usually such payments are part of the terms of the treaty ending the conflict. Demanding payments mid-conflict via court action rather than direct threat of military action definitely seems new.

[Don Edwards 581]

Ukraine can respond that they are not answerable to a mythical court.

(The court that issued the in-absentia sentence is officially sited in Moscow, but the Ukrainian government has revoked the charter that a predecessor Ukrainian government issued several centuries ago, under which Moscow exists. As a matter of Ukrainian law, Moscow does not exist, so nothing real can be situated there.)

[ijuin 611]

Technically that would apply to the kingdom of Russia. The USSR superseded it and asserted sovereignty over the region.