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[ranmamez]

Sorry, other classes, such as Grammar, Literature, and others have been left out due to artist constraint. Seriously, shouldn't you be clamoring about it being Mathematic class instead of Mathematics class? How about History and Science being too long for the letter size to account for those course names?

Besides, Ranma's in High School, I'm pretty sure that he's expected to know how to understand the Japanese language by then, otherwise how is he expected to hold a job, purchase anything, or other daily functions of society that require a basic grasp of the language. Besides, English is the Lingua Franca, since Esperanto hasn't caught on as well.

You didn't understand what's my statement: what I really meant is that there was no Japanese mark on there and only the English one, so it appears as an english-speaking country report, not a japanese one, and I think it's just not right. I think it's just an error. This doesn't mean that the the page must be redone with EVERY classes in a normal japanese high-school report, but at least I'd expect to find JAPANESE and NOT ENGLISH.

[Ten Waters]

You didn't understand what's my statement: what I really meant is that there was no Japanese mark on there and only the English one, so it appears as an english-speaking country report, not a japanese one, and I think it's just not right. I think it's just an error. This doesn't mean that the the page must be redone with EVERY classes in a normal japanese high-school report, but at least I'd expect to find JAPANESE and NOT ENGLISH.

The whole page is not visable the JAPANESE grade is hidden

[Ryvaken]

You're ignoring that the one class we know Ranma takes, by canon statements of the manga, is English, taught by Hinako-sensei. It's the only thing we can say, with absolute certainty, should be on Saotome Ranma's transcript.

[burgerbecky]

The whole page is not visable the JAPANESE grade is hidden

I find it amusing that you're nitpicking a report card from a high school that has a principal that dresses up his staff in animal costumes and orders them to lop off the student's hair while in the middle of a scavenger hunt for a "No follow 'da rules" coconut? Or how about the field trip to a deserted island where the boys get infected with the "Aloha Virus", all caused by the principal?

Somehow,

[Ryvaken]

The only thing I find in that list worth noting is that coconut-brain actually planned and executed the aloha virus incident.

[Ten Waters]

I find it amusing that you're nitpicking a report card from a high school that has a principal that dresses up his staff in animal costumes and orders them to lop off the student's hair while in the middle of a scavenger hunt for a "No follow 'da rules" coconut? Or how about the field trip to a deserted island where the boys get infected with the "Aloha Virus", all caused by the principal?

Somehow,

Put the lime in the coconut and drink it all up , and never take anything punctuated with a demon duck seriously.

[RPGaholic]

You didn't understand what's my statement: what I really meant is that there was no Japanese mark on there and only the English one, so it appears as an english-speaking country report, not a japanese one, and I think it's just not right. I think it's just an error. This doesn't mean that the the page must be redone with EVERY classes in a normal japanese high-school report, but at least I'd expect to find JAPANESE and NOT ENGLISH.

Okay, buddy, that's it. I challenge you to a game of Anything Goes Insult Swordfighting! I trained under Genma Saotome and Guybrush Threepwood. Prepare for your doom.

[ranmamez]

I surrender
English is not my native language and I didn't play any Monkey Island (yeah, shame on me, i can't help, maybe one day i'll play them), but i didn't mean any insult or offence...

[Knight]

I surrender
English is not my native language and I didn't play any Monkey Island (yeah, shame on me, i can't help, maybe one day I'll play them), but i didn't mean any insult or offence...

Offence, please, you couldn't offend them even if you tried... as for why Japanese schools would teach english, crazy principal aside, is because the most visible tourist speak english, not the most common, but ther most visible.

[Caloris]

Offence, please, you couldn't offend them even if you tried... as for why Japanese schools would teach english, crazy principal aside, is because the most visible tourist speak english, not the most common, but ther most visible.

They teach English in Japanese schools because it is the most wide spread language on Earth and is considered the language of international trade. As Japan relies on international trade to survive (ie, food imports), anyone dealing with a party outside Japan is expected to know English.

[Celtic Minstrel]

To give a comparison, in European languages (including English), we expect children to be passably literate (i.e. able to understand nearly any written sentence that they could understand in spoken form, even if they are still unable to spell the words when writing) by the completion of the third year of elementary school (age 8-9). In Japan a student is not expected to have learned all 1945 standard Kanji characters until the end of middle school (9th grade, age 14-15).

But I imagine they're expected to know the katakana and hiragana much earlier. And it's possible to write Japanese with these character sets and no Kanji, I believe (Usagi even does it in the anime).

Yeah I know a bunch of the legends around the planet's names but I've never taken an Latin class I just watch the history channel...a lot!

The legends aren't really anything to do with Latin. Or history, for that matter.

Also as a note, I'm thinking that Ranma doesn't actually take Japanese while he's at school, far as I recall he was never in Japanese class, ever.

I suppose the literature class could be optional in Japan. Here, however, it's compulsory right up to grade 12.

Somehow,

...Did you forget to finish your post?

[Ijuin]

But I imagine they're expected to know the katakana and hiragana much earlier. And it's possible to write Japanese with these character sets and no Kanji, I believe (Usagi even does it in the anime).

Sure they can read and write hiragana/katakana by year 3, but just about all books made for somebody older than elementary school use kanji, and ALL books and periodicals made for adults use the full 1,945 character set. To anybody who knows how to read kanji, Japanese with only hiragana/katakana is nearly illegible. For example, there are more than a dozen kanji that are all pronounced "ki", meaning: vapor/gas, spirit, emotion, tree/wood, record, period in time, machinery, danger, oni . . . the list goes on and on. If you use ONLY the phonetics to say "ki", then you have only the context to tell you which "ki" is meant, and even native adults get it wrong often enough.

[Cheb]

But I imagine they're expected to know the katakana and hiragana much earlier. And it's possible to write Japanese with these character sets and no Kanji, I believe (Usagi even does it in the anime).

Ranma 1/2 manga, for example, employs furigana on all its pages. One can read it even without knowing kanji.


They also often play tricks with this system: note that 止水桶 (stop-water-bucket) has "CHI:SUITON" written beside it in katakana, meaning it's a foreign word. Chinese, in this case, as in Japanese this would be pronounced differently.

The most memorable furigana play is in the Battle Dogi arc, where Akane exclaims "My true strenghth?". In kanji, it's written "latent reserves" but furigana says something different: "true power".

[dusky]

They teach English in Japanese schools because it is the most wide spread language on Earth and is considered the language of international trade. As Japan relies on international trade to survive (ie, food imports), anyone dealing with a party outside Japan is expected to know English.

I say is that Mathematics is actually the most common language around the world and is mathematics that really important. I mean its the official language of every Science and think how much society is influenced by Science.

Edited by dusky, 16 November 2009 - 11:41 PM.

[Ijuin]

Mathematics is very handy for describing the physical world, but it is woefully inadequate for describing the spiritual, i.e. the "mind" half of the mind/body dualism.

[Almech Alfarion]

Mathematics is very handy for describing the physical world, but it is woefully inadequate for describing the spiritual, i.e. the "mind" half of the mind/body dualism.

doesn't stop them from trying though...

[Ijuin]

Tell them to call back when they have a unit to measure love.

[Ryvaken]

I'm pretty sure that will be found around the same time as we determine the last element of a set of order Aleph-Aleph.

[Celtic Minstrel]

Mathematics is very handy for describing the physical world, but it is woefully inadequate for describing the spiritual, i.e. the "mind" half of the mind/body dualism.

Are you sure? You may be right, of course... or you may be wrong!

[Torgamous]

Are you sure? You may be right, of course... or you may be wrong!

There is no mathematical way to express "I am hungry". Math fails as a language.