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It's entirely possible that Tedd's ability is independent of the rules Magic sets for itself. 

Then it occurred to me: Could it be that all magical aptitudes are independent of the rules Magic is using? 

It makes some sense.  Regardless of Magic's rules Susan ought still be advantaged when it comes to making stuff out of magic.  This is not the same thing as saying she would keep her spells or "magic user" status through a rules change.  Just that her innate magical talent shouldn't disappear.

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From Pandora's conversation with Disco Wizard we learned that on a previous occasion when the Will of Magic changed the rules, an entire army of fire-mages lost the ability to throw fire.

So it's reasonable to think that, in the event of another rule change, the large majority of existing magic-users (within the scope of the rule-change... whatever that scope may be) will lose their ability to do magic. After all, it would hardly serve to keep magic rare if, in response to a great many people knowing how to do magic, the rules changed in a way that left THE SAME great many people still knowing how to do magic.

VorlonAgent may be right about affinities. Susan might be better suited than most to gain object-summoning abilities rather similar to her current ones. But there's no reason to think she would keep those abilities through the change. Of course, it's also entirely possible that under the new system, whatever it is about her that creates that affinity will instead create an affinity to, oh, healing spells (just to pick something at random).

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Just now, Don Edwards said:

VorlonAgent may be right about affinities. Susan might be better suited than most to gain object-summoning abilities rather similar to her current ones. But there's no reason to think she would keep those abilities through the change. Of course, it's also entirely possible that under the new system, whatever it is about her that creates that affinity will instead create an affinity to, oh, healing spells (just to pick something at random).

I think the kind of affinities like what Susan, Diane, and Sarah have are something that's engrained in their being, something that's been passed through generations, much like Nanase's family and can't be completely erased, however, a system change would mean having to start over by doing whatever would be required to reawaken or have an Immortal re-mark them which is probably a given considering Pandora "Box" promised to help Sarah get magic even if the system changed.

So I think Susan still have the same vampire hunting affinity, but the question would be whether or not she'd get the same spells she had. The summon magic weapon spell probably has the highest likelyhood, but it might not be the first spell she gets and it might not require keeping the original items in a marked storage container. Getting her fairy spell might again be dependent on the summon magic weapon spell and if there's no storage involved in the new spell then it would be difficult to get Nase or Susy back. The there's the hammer spell which she gained when she had her angst induced awakening over the origin story of the hammers. We're not even sure if Jerry could mark or awaken Susan at this point since his current incarnation is basically still a newborn and likely doesn't have enough power or hasn't relearned the ability to mark or awaken people, but there's still no guarantee that she'd get the same spells because the circumstances of how she got them in the first place aren't there.

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So recent talk that brought up Ashley's internet Ex-girlfriend again got me thinking. We have Dan's twitter statement that he knows who she is, we also have the fact that Ashley goes into detail about it during the date, those details give us hints at how old characters were when it happened and the interests of said characters, which is why I figure Tedd is the most likely because it could easily have happened before he got a hold of the TFG and being interested in transformation for a while would have been motivation to want to work on the TFG as well. We know that Tedd spent a number of years prior to the TFG being very shy and quiet to the point where everyone thought he was mute, but having access to the internet would have allowed him to be more expressive, especially if he found someone in a chatroom or forum that had the same interests. There's probably no argument that Tedd being genderfluid goes back years before the comic starts so even though Tedd didn't realize that transgender and genderfluidity were real, he could still have had those feelings back then and expressed himself as female online because it was safe and no one could judge him.

If Tedd isn't Ashley's Ex, I still think it's someone we know. I think if it was supposed to be obvious, Dan would have made it obvious, but I think if he didn't want it to be obvious, he'd still leave breadcrumbs that he can later use to say "here are examples to show why I made it this character". With that in mind, I'm looking at character development and personality and the first that comes to mind would be Sarah. We know she's been interested in transformation ever since she saw Sword in the Stone. So that fits with the shared interest part, however it does seem like Sarah's questioning of her possible bisexuality is a very recent thing so that makes it hard to see Sarah ever considering dating girls prior to the comic start.

The next would be Nanase, she's the only main character that would have been around back then that's a lesbian, however considering how much she was in denial about it in the first few years of the comic, I don't see her having secret relationships with females when she was younger, I also consider her interest in transformation to be a recent development with spending more time with Tedd. So I don't think she's a likely candidate either.

Susan...we know that she had a broad hatred for men for a long time, and we saw her consider dating females early on and even tried to enlist Ellen's help in that. But transformation doesn't seem to be of much interest to her and even her considering being a lesbian seemed to be a development within the comic and not something she had been thinking about for years.

Here's where I might expect pitchforks and torches, Diane. Yes for pretty much her entire time in the comic shows her taking advantage of the male population of MSHS, there are some hints that support her possibly being Ashley's ex. Diane's interest in magic, she thinks it's soo cool, that interest can translate into an interest in transformation as well. As to Diane's sexual preference, she takes advantage of men's attraction to her, but she's never seen getting physical with them. Her interaction with Rhoda seems strange to me, Rhoda's inclusion in the group seemed very odd, Diane early on always came off as being the Alpha Female of the group, Lucy I could see fitting in with that, but Rhoda never did, and yet for some reason Diane let her hang out with them and even goes out of her way to defend and help Rhoda through situations, I don't think Diane had ever tried to mold Rhoda to be like her and Lucy though I do get the feeling Lucy wished she did. I think Diane is quite fond of Rhoda and is just afraid to admit it. This is the same with Diane's behaviour around Nanase, she's always held Nanase in high regard as evidence by her attempts to get Nanase to join her group. Diane having such a view of Nanase probably also stems from seeing Nanase using magic around school so of course Diane would think Nanase's soo cool but is still afraid to just come out and admit it. It's a stretch, but there's been soo many similarities between Susan and Diane that even if they aren't sisters, I still wouldn't be surprised if Diane was bisexual (yeah I know, Susan considering dating females doesn't necessarily make her bisexual) but if Diane has had an interest in magic and transformations for years, if she found someone online that shared that interest, a relationship could have formed.

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Just now, HarJIT said:

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So, I did a google image search on pitchfork, and only saw 1 example of that particular type among a sea of garden/farm tools and the occasional bike part. So I can still try to correct you and say that's actually a tuning fork. :P

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7 hours ago, HarJIT said:

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Visual puns count.  On the list with a freaking notation.

3 packet.  At least one either in your nose or in your left eye.

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So... maybe Liz's power is to make enchantments semi-permanent?  It'd fit with her monologue, and complement the current situation with Kitty and (Felix)...

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One of the spells Pandora rejected giving Ashley was reducing pain.  Based on the commentary, it was more of a Throw It In last minute thought on Dan's part, but it still seems like the sort of thing a good writer could pick up on later.  I can foresee some future plot where Tedd is hurt, or greatly upset by one of his friends being hurt, and Pandora either regrets not giving Ashley the ability to help them, or discovering that her desire to help them makes her able to get a more powerful spell than she would have gotten back in October.  Pandora might be out in the open about things by then, and just plain offer Ashley the mark at that point, or she might mark her unknowing with the assumption/hope that the circumstances would lead Ashley to use her new powers sooner rather than later.

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11 hours ago, CritterKeeper said:

 I can foresee some future plot... and Pandora either regrets not giving Ashley the ability to help them, or discovering that her desire to help them makes her able to get a more powerful spell than she would have gotten back in October.

Unfortunately, her current attention to the magic reset threat will probably keep her from dwelling on things like the people she did not mark.

In fact her Modus Operandi for centuries has been "guiding and empowering" people in ways that will spread silliness and discord.  I believe Pandora would be in a psychological crisis that could only result in her own reset if she begins regretting the things she didn't do that would reduce suffering or spread joy among mundane humans

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16 hours ago, CritterKeeper said:

One of the spells Pandora rejected giving Ashley was reducing pain.  Based on the commentary, it was more of a Throw It In last minute thought on Dan's part, but it still seems like the sort of thing a good writer could pick up on later.  I can foresee some future plot where Tedd is hurt, or greatly upset by one of his friends being hurt, and Pandora either regrets not giving Ashley the ability to help them, or discovering that her desire to help them makes her able to get a more powerful spell than she would have gotten back in October.  Pandora might be out in the open about things by then, and just plain offer Ashley the mark at that point, or she might mark her unknowing with the assumption/hope that the circumstances would lead Ashley to use her new powers sooner rather than later.

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