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  1. 17 minutes ago, Tom Sewell said:

    A change like that might go along with another time jump. I've never seen why Dan skipped from summer to just before Christmas; the only excuse I could see until now is that he wanted the breakup between Sarah and Elliot happen during the Holidays. But now I'm beginning to think Dan is getting tired of doing High School stories and wants to move on at least to college. 

    Dan has said before that he always planned to follow the main cast from high school into college, and that he didn't originally expect the high-school section to take very long to tell. I've always figured the time skip was to get things closer to the college part of the story, and I wouldn't be surprised if we had another time skip "soon" - possibly right after Sister III if he's going to do Sarah and Sam's maybe-date and Justin and Luke's dates as NP stories, or perhaps after the immediate aftereffects of Sister III have been shown.

    23 minutes ago, Tom Sewell said:

    Whether or not Tedd learned the spell, she's just learned that she's lost someone who's important to her. Or he's, he's, and him.

    That depends on how much info she gets from her magic vision; I figured she'd see the the power of the spell and how it worked (so if she can't reproduce it, it's a matter of power and/or it just being a spell a mortal can't cast), but not who cast it or that it was tied with an Immortal reset.


  2. 51 minutes ago, hkmaly said:
    15 hours ago, Stature said:

    Tedd head-scratching is a small red flag. Or a side effect of first using the wand.

    Can Tedd FEEL coming reset?

    I suspect she's scratching her head and looking a bit out of it because she just saw an incredibly powerful spell. Even if it wasn't something she can reproduce, it was probably still impressive and overwhelming to her magic sight.


  3. I think Dan's ability to surprise me is part of the reason I'm so fond of EGS. Still, not all surprises are good, and I think this was a poorly thought out action on Pandora's part which will have significant negative consequences.

    First of all, the lights in the sky. It might not be enough to tip Magic over the edge; if not too many Immortals were caught on video, the governments of the world could probably pass it off as an unusually bright and far-reaching Aurora, or perhaps some other phenomena; the event was certainly strange but to a skeptic it wouldn't seem like it had to be magic. (This is assuming Arthur doesn't deliberately make the situation worse.) Still, even if it doesn't tip Magic over the edge, it will bring things that much closer to the edge, and they were pretty close already. If this doesn't do it, the next incident probably will.

    Secondly, forcing all the other Immortals to do something against their will was a really bad move. Nobody is going to like that, and I expect that there will be a meeting of Immortals in the near future to try and figure out a different means of law enforcement, one that doesn't put every Immortal in the world at risk every time someone breaks Immortal law. Which probably is exactly what Voltaire wanted, or close enough to it it makes no difference. Of course, I doubt Voltaire will be satisfied with just changing the law enforcement methods, but this will give him the opportunity to try and convince the other Immortals of his own ideas.

    Frankly I think Immortal law enforcement was always pretty flawed, and with this exploit exposed, it's not practical to leave things the way they are. Still, the methods Voltair used to get to this point were horrible, and I really hope he gets a good comeuppance at some point.

    ...

    If this does trigger magic to go over the edge, I wonder how long it will take before it does so? From a meta perspective, our primary concern at this point is Magus, Sirleck, Ashley, and the Dunkels, and having magic change in the middle of that story would complicate things much more than necessary, so I wouldn't expect it to happen at least until that part of the story is over. In-story, perhaps Magic will wait to find out the human reaction before changing? It might take a few days or more for discussion of the event to convince enough people magic is real for Magic to decide it needed to change.

    ...

    Darn it, sunburst background with sparkles in panel one, and pretty lights in panels two to six, and it's still not a good time for cheering...


  4. 3 minutes ago, Tom Sewell said:

    Neither would I if their not-date was on Saturday instead of tonight

    Well yes. The point I was trying to make is that if this story is going to continue into the next day or beyond, Dan might decide to tell about the date along with the other things happening Friday night rather than waiting for Sister III to be over to flashback to it. If however the story ends Friday evening (particularly if Sarah isn't involved) then he might as well tell about the date in a separate story.

    23 minutes ago, Scotty said:

    Dan had stated somewhere that Sarah and Sam's "Date" and Justin and Luke's date will be in a separate story arc, or possibly in NP's.

    Now that you mention it, that does sound familiar. So I'm going to amend my previous prediction: I don't expect to see Sarah and Sam again in the main story at least until the epilogue to Sister III, unless their maybe-a-date is interrupted by the news that Elliot, Ellen, and Ashley have been kidnapped.


  5. 6 hours ago, Tom Sewell said:

    And while I'm thinking of Diane, will we get to see how Diane will take the revelation that Adrian is her father soon? Dan didn't say this the end of Part 22 Apocalypse, but it has been an apocalypse for Susan, Diane and Adrian by definition, hasn't it? And even if magic does change, it should take some time. Time enough to go back to Magus, Sirleck, Elliot, Ellen, and Ashley, perhaps. Or Sarah's date with Sam. Or to check in with Justin and Grace at Salty Crackers. Or find out what Rhoda and Catalina are up to, particularly when Dan took so much trouble to give Rhoda really formidable power while he was working on Sister III.

    Guess we'll know Monday.

    Unless Sister III continues into Saturday (in story) or Sarah winds up involved in one of the major plot threads of the story, I don't expect to see her and Sam's date until after Sister III. And I don't expect to see what Justin, Grace, Rhoda, Catalina, or even Tedd are up to this evening unless it gets interrupted so they can go rescue Elliot, Ellen, and Ashley or otherwise get involved in the plot. (And I doubt Rhoda and Catalina will be involved in any rescue mission, as they're not part of the main 8 and thus unlikely to be called in a tight spot, at least unless Diane is still hanging around and thinks they can help.)


  6. 2 hours ago, hkmaly said:
    4 hours ago, ChronosCat said:

    Either option seems a bit over-powered, and neither seems like a power Magus would ever choose to use (so why introduce it into the story?).

    Weeell, both seem like something SIRLECK might choose to use.

    Well, assuming they're autonomous, making copies of Magus wouldn't be of much use to Sirleck. Making copies of Sirleck or spreading his control might be useful to him though.

    At any rate the Dewitchery Diamond is specifically designed to work with transformations (that was what the Werewolf curse was, after all). For all we know it might not count any other type of magic as a "curse". Even if it does count some other types of magic, I suspect it's limited to cases where a spell was cast on the "victim"; I'm thinking the more hands-on type of magic involved in possession is probably beyond the Diamond's ability to do anything about. (I mean, Sirleck is latched onto Ellen; what's the Diamond going to do, tear him off of her to put him on "Ellen II"? And while Magus certainly plans on winding up in "Elliot II", I expect he needs to add his own magic to the mix to pull that off.)

     


  7. 1 hour ago, Don Edwards said:

    Ah, let's make a mess of things. Somehow, for some reason, Elliot/Magus and Ellen/Sirleck touch the DD at the same time. Elliot and Ellen are spun free and clear, and a new body is created that is possessed by both Magus and Sirleck. Magus and Sirleck then get into an argument which turns into a knockdown brawl - all by themself. Elliot and Ellen are, naturally, rather confused (by how they got where they are, as well as by what they are witnessing), but Ashley is able to figure out what happened and explain it to them.

    What I expect to happen is Elliot/Magus touches the diamond, producing a new body with the appearance Elliot/Magus currently sports, and with Magus in possession of it (perhaps he knows a spell to ensure that his soul takes up residence in the body as its only inhabitant before a new soul can wind up in it). Sirleck then detaches from Ellen and attempts to possess the new body. Depending on if Sirleck catches Magus off guard and whether Magus has any defenses against possession, this could lead to Magus fighting Sirleck one way or another.

    I suspect the "curse" the new body will have the ability to spread is "blonde hair" (possibly with a few other minor physical changes).

    1 hour ago, Don Edwards said:

    Eventually the wizard Magus is able to destroy Sirleck, but then Elliot and Ellen explain to him that by virtue of that damnable diamond he now has the power to spread the curse of being possessed by Sirleck and/or the curse of being possessed by Magus. He doesn't know what to make of that.

    I don't see how "possession by someone" would work as a spreadable curse. Would Magus be creating copies of himself to possess other people? Or would he be able to spread his control over multiple bodies, creating an army of drones under his command? Either option seems a bit over-powered, and neither seems like a power Magus would ever choose to use (so why introduce it into the story?).


  8. 7 hours ago, Tom Sewell said:

    Given how powerful Pandora is, parthenogenesis is hardly off the table. In fact, since Pandora is totally inhuman while taking her naps, it seems likely that this is the normal way for Immortals to make more Immortals if they so wish.

    I've speculated as much myself. In fact, my theory is that the multiple faces in her "Chaos" form and the fact that she seemed to be developing multiple personalities were indicators that she was nearly ready to split into multiple Immortals. Since there was no indication she was expecting to reproduce (otherwise you'd think she wouldn't have been planning on resetting/refreshing soon), I further theorize that this is only something they can do at an advanced age, and that knowledge of it was lost or deliberately suppressed among the Immortal population, much like the knowledge that Elves can reproduce.

    7 hours ago, Tom Sewell said:

    Wake up! If you can't plow through long-winded blather, why are you on this forum?

    Why, to post my own long-winded (or not-so-long-winded) blather, of course!


  9. 2 hours ago, hkmaly said:
    3 hours ago, ChronosCat said:

    So, it's interesting getting a glimpse of the furry fox form's back side (it turns out that bikini is even skimpier than I thought, and it's neat that for once Dan drew the base of the tail more or less where it belongs).

    I though this is normal level of skimpy for bikini?

    I have no idea; never worn one, never shopped for one, and they aren't a particularly common choice of swim wear on the beaches I've been to (not that I go to the beach that often). From what I've seen in fiction the one Ashley's wearing isn't that unusual (in fact I've seen skimpier), I was just somehow expecting it to cover a little bit more (particularly the top) than it did.

    2 hours ago, hkmaly said:
    3 hours ago, ChronosCat said:

    However, I can't help but suspect Dan chose that view as an excuse not to draw an anthro fox face. (Or maybe I'm overly suspicious, and Dan just felt like adding in some variety; stranger things have happened.)

    He did it already multiple times and it's probably harder.

    That's kind of what I was thinking - that he has a hard time with animal-like faces and this isn't an area he cares all that much about improving, so he's using any excuse he can to not draw them more than absolutely necessary. (This would also tie in with the previous time he drew Ashley from behind, and those strips where he could have shown her but didn't.)

    It could also be just that he doesn't really like the look of animal-like faces; I seem to remember him saying something to that effect years back when talking about Grace and her brothers.


  10. http://www.egscomics.com/egsnp.php?id=718

    So, it's interesting getting a glimpse of the furry fox form's back side (it turns out that bikini is even skimpier than I thought, and it's neat that for once Dan drew the base of the tail more or less where it belongs). However, I can't help but suspect Dan chose that view as an excuse not to draw an anthro fox face. (Or maybe I'm overly suspicious, and Dan just felt like adding in some variety; stranger things have happened.)

    It's cute Ashley imagined Rhoda with a dog biscuit. In fact it's such a cute image I kind of wish it was "actually" happening, though that would be a little strange.

    I can't wait to find out what Ashley's chosen for Catalina; I hope it's something good!


  11. Ooh, pretty lights. Say, is Pandora creating a sunburst in the final panel? Hmm, maybe not, since it doesn't have an inner disk. At any rate I probably shouldn't cheer for it given the circumstances...

    6 hours ago, Entropy said:

    I'm more interested in what she is doing with the connection... Just hope that is not exactly what Voltaire wanted to happen...

    Same here. Narrative conventions would suggest Voltaire's plans can't fail at least until we know what they are, but it would make Pandora's sacrifice a lot more painful to me if we get Voltaire going "all according to plan" afterward.

    4 hours ago, Stature said:

    Plan CM? I hope that is way long gone. Griffin gone.

    Plan CM was still in effect well into Sister III. In fact "Friday Night" (the present in-comic) would seem to be the climax of plan CM.

    4 hours ago, Stormtalon42 said:

    Personal theory is she's using her power and the connection to hijack the Reset process in order to actually remain herself through the change.  

    It'd be less of a Reset and more of, I dunno....  Oooh, we can use the word Regeneration, I bet!  

    Say, is that a demonic duck in a funny blue box over there?

    Pandora called it a Refresh. And she was planning on doing it even before she knew she'd need to break Immortal Law, so while she's definitely attempting one, I doubt that's what she's doing with the connection.


  12. 13 hours ago, hkmaly said:

    As physical/clothing card, it replaced the kid, which caused reset to default. Why should it behave differently?

    Well, removing the details of the card's transformation could have resulted in the card causing no transformation at all. The only result of it being a clothing/physical card in this case would be that you could use it to buy a two space (or with a 1-type card to buy a 3 space).

    With it not being something that was supposed to happen, it could also have had even stranger or more dangerous effects, but that might have totally derailed the plot and possibly have gotten too dark for EGS.

    13 hours ago, hkmaly said:

    Well, consider this (and this, but that was under FV5). But yes, it does feel weird.

    As I said, I think that Susan is not used to people saying stuff like this to her - noone realized that she may like hearing it. Although she would probably NOT like hearing it from most people ... if Elliot said it, however ...

    Speaking for myself, I don't think Susan being happy about being thought of as sexy is out of character. I just didn't think that her expression and pose seemed like ones Susan would make (even happy Susan). I'm have just confirmed however that it's almost entirely the fault of the lipstick; this looks a lot more like Susan to me:

    bunnycop_nolipstick.png

    Incidentally, regarding Susan's reaction, Dan said this on Patreon, which is relevant to the conversation here:

    Quote

    Every card can have a subtle effect on personality, and my own personal rules about canon say what's going on is open to interpretation.

    If one accepts the headcanon of the author (me) as canon, however, it has to do with the fact that Rhoda was stating it as though it were a fact, and wasn't out to "get" anything from Susan when she said it. Susan would generally react poorly to such a thing because it would be said by someone trying to seduce and/or manipulate her, and she has no reason to think touching is imminent.

    Basically, this matter of fact declaration of her being sexy hits all the right Susan buttons.

     


  13. I guess the card must have still mentioned that it was physical/clothing despite the original physical transformation having been removed; otherwise there's no explanation for why Susan thought the card would undo "Kid". It's also interesting (and lucky) that without a set transformation, the physical aspect of the card acted as a reset to default.

    21 hours ago, CritterKeeper said:

    Sorry, but this one lost me.  Susan just doesn't seem to be acting like Susan.

    It feels a bit off to me too. Although personally I'm not sure how much of it is how she's acting, and how much is the fact that between the lipstick and her expression, she doesn't look herself.


  14. So, Pandora has taken steps to try to Refresh, and she believes they can work even with a forced reset. I was hoping that would be the case, but I wasn't sure. I look forward to seeing how it turns out.

    I saw Susan being a "distant descendant" a long ways back, but I expected Diane to to be one as well. I guess Raven still has sexual relations these days (or a couple of decades ago, which to someone his age might as well be "these days").

    I wonder, was he married? Not that I personally think it wrong for people to have sex without being married, but it would still give us some interesting insight into his character to know his views on the matter.

    ...Would it ruin the somber tone if I cheered for the starburst background? Maybe if I do it as quietly as possible... Yay for starburst background in panel eight!

    2 hours ago, Pharaoh RutinTutin said:

    The exact term depends on exactly how many generations are between Susan and Adrian.

    If Susan is Adrian's daughter, she is Diane's sister (or half-sister). 

    If S is A's Granddaughter, she is D's Niece.  (Although if S was A's Daughter or Granddaughter, Pandora probably would have said so plainly.)

    Pandora called Susan Adrian's "distant descendant" which rules out daughter, and in my opinion granddaughter and probably anything without more than a couple "greats" in it.


  15. 1 hour ago, Scotty said:

    I think Tedd does retain the knowledge of spells after a system changes, my understanding based on what Disco Wizard told Grace and Pandora, the only thing that changes is how humans learned and use magic, but the spells themselves wouldn't change. If Tedd (and Seers in general) lost all the knowledge he's gained from watching spells in action, how could he be expected to teach others? If seers had to wait until someone accidentally used a spell in the new system, it kinda makes the first purpose of a Seer obsolete because you already have people using magic without being told how.

    Well, if Pandora's previous-self's memories of the last magic change reflect what's to come, all full-blooded Humans will loose access to their spells. This suggests that either the old spells don't work any more and new spells need to be learned, or that the means of accessing those spells is changed. Disco Wizard says that seers wouldn't be affected "because they don't get spells in the first--[place]" but that doesn't necessarily mean that Tedd would be able to put an old spell into a wand and have it work without any modification.

    I also don't think that needing to see someone accidentally use a spell before they could create new wands or teach others the new magic system would completely make the Seers pointless; just because one person used magic accidentally wouldn't mean that person would know how they did it or how to cast other spells. The Seer, being able to see under the hood, would be able to figure out how the magic system worked much faster than the ordinary user, and could teach others how to get new spells or unlock the new versions of old spells.

    Still, it does sound like there's more to being a Seer than that. From what Heka and Pandora said, it sounds like just by experiencing the magic change they'll automatically have some idea of how the new system works (which means Tedd could start helping his friends relearn magic without anyone needing to cast any magic first). And while there's no in-story evidence to suggest it that I can see, based on Dan's interests and his tendency to be nice to the main characters unless the plot demands otherwise I expect that Tedd will eventually be able to figure out how to translate those old spells he knows the workings of into spells that work in the new system; the only question is how long it will take him.


  16. On 1/4/2018 at 1:47 PM, Illjwamh said:

    Given the in-universe timeline, some important anniversaries are coming up. Namely: when Tedd met Grace, and shortly thereafter the birth of Ellen and the battle with the Goo, which marked the first time the original main 8 were all in one place.

    Any predictions on if/how these events will be observed by the characters in upcoming storylines?

    Tedd will prepare a nice simple romantic event with Grace (possibly a dinner at home if his father will be out) then get insecure and go overboard on some aspect of the event (cooking too much, perhaps?)

    Elliot and the Dunkels will put together a traditional birthday party for Ellen (possibly a surprise party, if she already celebrated on Elliot's birthday), probably with the rest of the main 8 invited.

    Of course unless something happens relevant to the ongoing plot-lines we'll be lucky to even hear about these things in passing. (We've only heard about a couple of Grace and Tedd's dates, and the only birthday that we've seen celebrated is Grace's.)


  17. 1 hour ago, Drasvin said:

    Jerry was going to offer Sarah a magic mark, so I would say that the magic marks don't count as part of the Immortal's power as Jerry wouldn't want to mess up his reset(His next life wouldn't be a very useful ally to Susan if he messed it up). Though an Immortal might run into trouble if they try to give a mark in the same moment their reset finally triggers, as I imagine it take some of their power to bestow the mark, even if the mark itself isn't part of their power.

    Besides, as Kazzellin points out, Immortals gather their power when doing a proper reset, which a forced reset is not.

    Thanks. That's one question answered.

    As for how proper a reset this will be, I imagine part of the problem for most immortals would be they weren't prepared. Pandora has been thinking about Resetting anyway, so she might have already done most of the preparations. (I'm assuming it was never said that a forced reset is automatically an improper one; if I'm forgetting something, someone please direct me to the relevant info.)


  18. 23 minutes ago, Scotty said:

    Tedd's a seer and won't be affected by any system change, so while he did worry about the possibility of being stuck as either male or female when he first found out about the magic change, he later learned from Pandora that it won't be the case with him because he's learned the spell, and can easily make a wand to change. It would literally be seconds between finding out his mark is gone (if the system change erases them) and thinking he needs to find something that would work in making a wand.

    The wand that Tedd's already made would likely have the spells erased from it, or otherwise made unusable in a system change but Tedd probably could re-enchant it again.

    In light of Tedd's ability to make a wand based on his mark, Tedd shouldn't have any difficulty changing sexes even if he looses his mark; you're right that even if he looses that wand he can just make another.

    However, I think it would be a different matter if magic changed. Pandora said Tedd would retain his ability to see how magic spells worked and share spells with others (and he would also retain other abilities). However I believe spells and abilities are different in this context, and I didn't see anything about him retaining the use of the spells he's learned after a change.

    I'm fairly certain that when magic changes, all old spells will become ineffective, so a new wand enchanted with an old spell would be just as ineffective as an old wand. Tedd might be able to reproduce the effects of spells from the old system in the new system with enough work, but first he'd need to figure out how the new system worked and modify the old spells to fit with the new system. (Much like how programs usually need to be modified if you want to use them on a different operating system than they were designed for.)


  19. 1 hour ago, hkmaly said:

    ... however, Tedd already knows how to make wand which will permanently change one's gender. Actually he already made it.

    I had forgotten that was the spell Tedd put on his first "proper" wand. That's convenient... Almost a little too convenient. With an author with a more traditional storytelling style, I'd be almost sure that was a Chekhov's Gun.

    Of course that wand probably won't be of much use when (if) Magic changes, so there's still a chance of Tedd accidentally winding up with his default form stuck at female for a while...


  20. 7 minutes ago, Vorlonagent said:

    The way Jerry tells it, I thought it was one combined thing.  the more powerful an Immortal the more insight they had, the more intelligent they are, the more bored, the more insane.  That's why I think Pandora has to give up her unnatural clarity, insight, accumulated power, etc in order to refresh.  She might even remember her life, but would be a fledgling Immortal for most other purposes.

    I still read that as their insight coming from their knowledge and experience... Though I suppose the "clairvoyance" may partially be a result of their power. Either way, I think they'd need to abandon most of their memories to get rid of enough of the insight to be safe from the boredom and instability.

    I forgot to mention in my earlier post that Pandora will need to get rid of her power too. I thought that was just a requirement of resetting, but rereading that comic I now see it would probably also be necessary to get rid of the clairvoyance.

    Reading that strip again raised a new question for me: Jerry said to reset properly he needed to gather all of his power. Do Magic Marks count as part of an immortal's power? Sure, Susan was still able to use her mark after Helen and Demetrius reset, but they didn't reset properly. If the marks do count, Pandora has the choice of taking the marks away from a lot of people (something many of them will not be happy about), or not resetting properly.

    If Pandora does have to undo the magic marks, I hope Tedd is in his male form right now, or he'll have to use the TFG (or his watches or some other "wand") regularly if he wants to keep his public identity "male".


  21. Comparing the two versions of the comic, I think I prefer the first. I figured out everything in the first panel on my own, so seeing it all be spelled out in such a wordy fashion reminds me of those poorly done Anime dubs that feel the need to constantly explain the obvious, as well as fill up any silent moments with talking.

    The shadows to emphasize Susan's figure are probably necessary, as having people think Susan is still a kid is really not good under the circumstances, but I do mourn the loss of "realism".

    3 hours ago, hkmaly said:

    By rules, she shouldn't be able to replace kid without playing some physical card. Dan said that he will address it, so hopefully he will in way it would make sense ... but note that this is SECOND mistake he found. Must've really be late in night when he was playtesting it.

    I really hope that if Dan does another Goonmanji, he goes over the play-through details thoroughly looking for errors before he starts writing. While Dan has been able to write around them so far, I worry that Dan might run into a error that's not so easy to write around. Also, back when he moved Ashley's piece the wrong number of spaces, Ashley's justifications for her choices didn't feel as natural in the revised version as the original, so even if Dan does come up with a last-minute solution, it's not necessarily going to be as good as if he had discovered the mistake early enough to replay the affected sections (or at least take his time thinking of a fix).


  22. 2 hours ago, hkmaly said:

    I'm still surprised she HAS any time left. But maybe it's BECAUSE she's actively resisting?

    As Kazellin alluded to, there can be a delay of up to a minute before the reset occurs. I'm assuming that the count only started when she actually intervened. This comic reads to me like the events only took a few seconds, most of that in the last two panels. So she could still have almost a minute left. (My guess is she'll have at least most of one strip, maybe even close to two strips, depending on how the comic is paced and if she gets her full minute.)

    42 minutes ago, Kazzellin said:

    2) Is she going to try talking to Raven about stuff really fast, or would she instead do a Vulcan-esque information dump on him? Or just tell him to seek out Heka and get an explanation (in which case, we'd get to find out if Raven is allowed to leave the country via man-made apparatus (ie, fly), or if he can teleport)?

    I wonder if Pandora can use her magic to write super fast, and/or divide her attention enough to write while keeping an eye on the battle? I'm imagining her writing a letter to him (not necessarily a long one, but saying more than she could in a minute) at some point between when she noticed the Aberrations and when she had to stop Scarf.

    31 minutes ago, Vorlonagent said:

    3) A better question is: "What does a "refresh" entail?"  What must Pandora give up in order to refresh?  Obviously the creeping insanity.  That's the whole point.  What is that insanity attached to?  I suspect the accumulated power and perception as well... 

    The insanity is connected to her ability to predict things, which I believe comes from her vast knowledge and experience. This means she'll need to loose most of her memories. Of course, Immortals always keep some of their memories when they reset properly, and I think Pandora will be aiming to keep a bit more than most do (including many memories of Adrien, and enough knowledge of Tedd and Sarah to pick up where she left off with them).

    Referring back to this strip again, Pandora seems to expect to have a different personality; apparently that's normal and she's willing to accept that so long as she remains "herself", though she doesn't exactly spell out what would be enough for her to consider it still herself.

    She'll definitely want to keep her emotional attachments (she's said as much), but I wouldn't be surprised if the nature of those attachments changed somewhat. For instance, if she acknowledges that at least in some ways she's a new person, she might think of Adrian more like a brother or close uncle rather than her son.


  23. 33 minutes ago, Tuscahoma said:

    So, Pandora might not be powerful enough to resist all Immortals forcing her to reset, but is she powerful enough to perform a Refresh instead of a Reset while being pressured into resetting?  On the fly?  Having never done it before and no preparation (that we know of)?  For many reasons, I would say highly unlikely to impossible, but obviously I am hoping she does.

    One possibility is that she is powerful enough to resist the reset, but chooses to merely modify the reset instead. More likely she doesn't have enough power to completely resist, and doesn't know if she can pull off refreshing, but is going to try anyway.

    It's also important to note that Pandora's greatest asset isn't magical strength, it's how intelligent she is. Altering how the reset works is probably not so much a matter of brute force but careful modification of the reset magic; all she needs is an idea of what to change and just enough power to make those changes. 

    And it's not necessarily with no preparation; she's had most of the day to think about what to do and start getting ready. Granted, that's not much time, but it's better than nothing.

    ...A new thought: I wonder what Voltair was hoping to happen here? I think it would be pretty cool if he expected her to resist the reset and thus force the Immortals to gather together to re-asses both their laws and how to enforce them, only to have those plans dashed when she accepts the reset. (Whatever he expects, I hope it's not what he gets; there are some villains I'll root for up to a point, but Voltair is the sort of villain I much prefer seeing being thwarted.)


  24. If Susan was still in Kid form, I'd think the "Jail" referred to "jailbait". As she seems to have regained her normal age, though, the only thing I can think of is maybe the Police card has mental effects, including throwing references to law enforcement into your speech. (Or Susan could just be joking around, but it doesn't look like she would be in the mood for that.)

    I've had a hard time correctly predicting Dan recently, but I'll try again anyway. I think the reason Police canceled out Kid is because it's specifically a sexy police costume, and rather than have the costume be modified for Kid, Hanma just had the costume override Kid. Seeing as Susan didn't know it was a sexy outfit, though, I don't know why Susan would have expected Police to replace Kid. (She could have simply forgotten the rules, but then it's quite a coincidence that it actually worked out.)

    I'm also still hoping for an explanation for why Hanma made almost all the outfits so far sexy, but not Nurse.


  25. I agree with what Critter Keeper said; this was the bullet Sirleck dodged, which means Pandora didn't kill all of the Aberrations in the world, just in the area (possibly even just those in the mall).

    As for Pandora's reset, whether or not she is capable of fighting it, I expect Pandora to go along with the reset - she was planning on resetting soon anyway. However, even with what little time she has left I expect her tell Adrian he's fathered children, and to try to make it her reset a refresh.