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I think she didn't - that Sarah noticed because as artist she study anatomy. I think she limited that explanation to the ability to "see" magic, yes. Actually, when she said what she's SPECIFICALLY afraid of, Tedd was somewhat less certain ... Everything we've seen from Diane in the past couple story makes me believe that she would catch on and likely not have any issue with it. Sure, hearing about Elliot being able to turn into a female was a shock, but she wasn't totally put off by it, it just seemed like the Cheerleadra 2.0 form disturbed her but the general thought of Elliot having that spell didn't. So I would expect that if Tedd introduced herself in girl form, Diane would likely jump to the "Tedd's transformed" assumption, but if Elliot or someone else mentioned Tedd being Genderfluid I'm certain Diane would understand. Yeah, between Elliot and her own character development, she's unlikely to have issues with it ... but Tedd doesn't know that. It's mainly that hair and certain body features really but it's possible Diane could see some resemblance in the face, as Sarah did. Sarah only commented when Tedd changed hair to form resembling Nanase ... granted, his current look IS closer to that, while Nanase's different that it used to be ...
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Out of curiosity, do you normally say "in TV" in your area/language? I've only ever heard it phrased "on TV" in American English... Though actually, given what it looks like, "in" does make more sense. Yes, although thinking about it, I've usually heard it phrased "on TV" in English ... I'm not sure how aware of that Dan is, but it clearly isn't enough to stop him from giving characters that ought to be side characters tons of development, to the point where some of them border on being main characters themselves. I'm not saying this expansion of the cast is a good thing, I'm just predicting what seems most likely based on Dan's writing style. Well, he might be aware but unable to stop himself I'd call eight "plenty" (particularly as Dan has a hard enough time juggling the current 8)... ... true, from this angle it would be plenty ... Melissa never looked to be on path to main character to me. Grace's siblings, well, maybe ... we still don't know who's Greg girlfriend don't we?
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Possibly, with "Arthur" once again telepathically trying to get Susan to continue the main quest.
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So the most obvious option won. But blacksmith is one of few occupations where you can have buff people not involved in deliberate bodybuilding or fighting. Well, he did mentioned option to have kids in previous page comments ... although that might mean that he will skip the "Susan in bed" and go directly to kids. Regarding comment: the issue with personal space is that real people can differentiate between you being close deliberately or just randomly ... and when you are close because you need to get somewhere and they are in way. Programming all of that would be quite a lot of work and not worth it.
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I wonder if Dan will do something like he did with Grace in "Rad Squirrel", well, maybe not go as far as showing Susan in bed, but having Susan chose to sleep with "Dunkel" the next panel is black, and then the last panel is when she wake up and is like "That's it!?!?".
- Yesterday
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https://egscomics.com/egsnp/parable-020 I never thought of Elliot as being particularly "Metal"
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Ooh, Anpanman!
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So telling Susan "No" is bad And telling Susan "Yes" is bad I'm sure this kind of awkward, no-right-answer, situation will never again appear in EGS or in real life
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Changing Medications (Level of Trust Required)
ProfessorTomoe replied to ProfessorTomoe's topic in Off Topic Discussion
The doctor has tripled my dose of gabapentin to 300mg, 3x a day. I'm still getting pain when the stuff wears off. The dentist's office called me about the situation. I explained. They checked with the dentist, who said she'd "bruised" a nerve and I'd just have to wait for it to heal. As for my appointment with her tomorrow, that's pretty obviously cancelled. They're going to call me next week and touch base with me about the pain - if it's gone, we'll reschedule. -
Out of curiosity, do you normally say "in TV" in your area/language? I've only ever heard it phrased "on TV" in American English... Though actually, given what it looks like, "in" does make more sense. I'm not sure how aware of that Dan is, but it clearly isn't enough to stop him from giving characters that ought to be side characters tons of development, to the point where some of them border on being main characters themselves. I'm not saying this expansion of the cast is a good thing, I'm just predicting what seems most likely based on Dan's writing style. I'd call eight "plenty" (particularly as Dan has a hard enough time juggling the current 8)... Also, I didn't actually work out what characters were potential main character candidates when I made that statement; I based my statement on the fact that that there have been a lot of times over the years where it's seemed to me like I was looking at a potential future main character or at least important supporting character. Some of those times were probably for the same characters. And some of those characters don't seem like main character candidates any more (for instance, after the way things ended between Justin and Melissa, it would cause too much friction to bring her into the group, and it's been so long since we've seen Grace's siblings they'll need a re-introduction just to return to important supporting character status).
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The last time, that we know of, Susan saw Tedd as a girl was in Playing with Dolls, yeah Tedd came to school as a girl when Elliot brought up the idea of the party with Susan and Sarah, but it's unknown if Susan noticed. I dunnot if Tedd would have mentioned having discovered what genderfluidity is during the offpanel recap she gave Susan and Nanase of the card tournament or if she limited it to just telling them about her ability to "See" magic. There is also this page where Sarah's worried about what Susan would think of her transforming, and Tedd basically telling her to not let what Susan thinks get in the way of having fun, Tedd's current behaviour suggests that she's unable to do so herself. She might have been able to if it was just Susan coming over, but everyone describing Diane as a Doppel-Susan is probably making Tedd expect double the disapproving looks. Everything we've seen from Diane in the past couple story makes me believe that she would catch on and likely not have any issue with it. Sure, hearing about Elliot being able to turn into a female was a shock, but she wasn't totally put off by it, it just seemed like the Cheerleadra 2.0 form disturbed her but the general thought of Elliot having that spell didn't. So I would expect that if Tedd introduced herself in girl form, Diane would likely jump to the "Tedd's transformed" assumption, but if Elliot or someone else mentioned Tedd being Genderfluid I'm certain Diane would understand. It's mainly that hair and certain body features really but it's possible Diane could see some resemblance in the face, as Sarah did.
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On October 13 in History: 54 - Emperor Claudius dies mysteriously. It is likely he was poisoned by his wife, Agrippina Minor, so that her son, Nero, could take the throne. If true, she will come to regret this. 1307 - Philip IV the Fair of France has every Knight Templar in France he can get his hands on arrested at dawn, under charges of heresy. By a serendipitous coincidence, this frees him of his massive debt to the Order. 1399 - Henry Bolingbroke is crowned King Henry IV of England on the grounds that Richard II is just the worst. 1793 - Austrian and Prussian forces defeat a Revolutionary French army at the First Battle of Wissembourg, possibly because the French keep arresting their own commanders. 1903 - The Boston Americans (later Red Sox) win the first World Series against the Pittsburgh Pirates. So it doesn't matter how many times the Yankees win, because we did it first. 1908 - Margaret Travers Symons becomes the first woman to speak in British Parliament. Not because she's a member or anything; she just burst into the hall in the middle of a debate and shouted "Votes for women!" before being dragged out. Ironically the ballsiest thing anyone in that chamber had ever done. 1923 - After 1600 years, Istanbul is demoted, and Ankara becomes the capital of the new Turkish Republic. Geez, you offer people some of the best centuries of your life... 1925 - Margaret Thatcher is tragically born with an iron rod where her soul should be. 1943 - Italy's new government knows which side its bread is buttered on and declares war on Germany. 1944 - Soviet forces drive the Nazis out of Riga. As far as the Latvians are concerned, this basically just means "under new management." 1972 - Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571 crashes in the Andes mountains. The 28 survivors had been in the middle of watching the in-flight movie: a documentary on the Donner Party. 1989 - Birth of America's youngest Latina president. If I put it on here, it has to be true, even if it's the future. 2010 - 33 Chilean miners are winched from the shelter they've been trapped in for 69 days. I can only assume the number one thing on all of their minds was a shower. 2013 - Death of Takashi Yanase, whose claim to fame was creating a superhero whose head is a bean-jam bun. Sometimes the world is just fuckin' weird and you don't realize how much until you say it out loud. 2016 - The Maldives quits the Commonwealth. "It's not you; it's us."
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Susan has known Tedd as a girl since Grace's birthday party, where Susan got to experience being a boy. Susan actually has a Tedd fairy doll now. Diane, however, is a stranger to Tedd, so, yes. Susan has known Tedd as someone who changes to girl for fun. I suspect she didn't told her she found what "genderfluid" means. Diane has detective sense. I think she WILL notice when he's boy. Also, Susan might not be explaining that. She doesn't have that much experience with Tedd so it may not occur to her how likely it is she will be girl. ... also, while it's true Tedd and Nanase look similar, their current look is not exactly maximizing the similarity.
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> EGSNP during day, will OH NO A BEAR I'll TRY TO TWEET WHEN IT'S UP BUT THERE'S A BEAR I HAVE TO FIGHT A BEAR NOW Dan... that's not how the "Bear with me" joke goes...
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Susan has known Tedd as a girl since Grace's birthday party, where Susan got to experience being a boy. Susan actually has a Tedd fairy doll now. Diane, however, is a stranger to Tedd, so, yes. Of course, by the time Susan and Diane arrive, Susan should have already explained that Tedd can change his gender and often does, so when Diane actually meets Tedd, she might say something like "You look just like Nanase when you're a girl" when Tedd is a boy.
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http://egscomics.com/comic/party-074 Ok ... STILL no mention of defense. Sigh. And, Grace too late noticed that Tedd is not completely OK with Diane coming ... and looking at reddit comments, the reasoning make sense. I'm not sure Tedd is ok to explain herself to SUSAN, much less Diane. On the other hand, as mentioned in commentary, both choices were not exactly good. The party was already not ideal for private stuff and it will be worse ... but it's not good time for telling Susan no.
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I feel like if there were people crazy enough to stick around to see the whole event, then there would like have been some that would even stay to tell reporters, the news Sarah and other people read should have reflected that. Not necessarily ... and they might not be interviewed if they didn't sound coherent enough or put too much of "hello mum I'm in TV". Yes. Or, well, not, although I would really like to see some of that. There were already multiple cases when Dan used some uncertainties in past stories to build new story from. For example, the doll Nanase left in school turned out to be important as a clue for Charlotte ... but it could've just as easily disappear. So, we won't be sure how much of that incident was filmed and who saw that until it turns out in future story. I still think that Charlotte is informed about it better than Sarah. He's well behind Rhoda and Catalina, but I suspect that Noah will one day be part of the main cast. In fact, between the big deal Dan made of him when he was introduced, and the fact that he was made to be Elliot's friend, I suspect that Dan has always intended him to become a major character if not one of the main group, it just hasn't worked out that way (yet). Yes, this has all signs of "being in plan for long time, didn't expected it will take so long to get to it". This may be big "if". Ellen and Nanase's adventures might be excellent NP material if there weren't lot of even better NP material available. If Dan ever finishes "main story of EGS" (which he probably wouldn't, as there is no single story to finish), he would have easily ten times more material for sidestories. She basically ONLY gets more focus AND chance to get into group WHEN it will be revealed she has magic and what magic it is. So far, the relationships worked that way, and with Luke and Sam having magic it can continue to work ... but on the other hand, the group is harder to manage the bigger it is. Akiko is prime "next generation" material. Her chance to appear in comics is right next to chance to see Nanase and Ellen's child. It would sure be nice but unless the research in immortality gets major progress Dan doesn't have much chance to live so long. Rhea doesn't seem important. Kitty and Felix might get NP story but probably not more. There are already people closer to main cast with similar powers. But even if they all would appear, it's still ... 8. Doesn't seem like "plenty". Germahn Labs crew is older generation. In fact, based on the only canon note about them we have, they might be even older than Verres and other parents. Granted, it's difficult to read the minds of fictional characters, and there is no canonical statement, but pre-change Diane was openly bitchy, and Grace has always been empathetic and friendly to pretty much everyone. Diane has know Rhoda for a while, but not a long while; a few years. There was some friction in their clique, and Rhoda was the only partially included one. Diane was condescending the few times we've seen them interact; Grace doesn't do that. It's not clear how much time Rhoda spent with Diane (and Lucy), but conjecture says, apparently not much outside of school; they didn't comment that she spent less time with them when she started tutoring or got a girlfriend. The length of tutoring sessions is also indeterminate, it could vary by an order of magnitude from around twenty minutes to a a couple of hours. Given the investment in travel time, probably more like at least an hour. We also don't know the frequency, but I'm going to assume a minimum of one a week. That's a solid hour or so of close face time in a non-judgemental setting to develop some sort of rapport. There is some evidence in their few casual encounters that they enjoy these sessions and look forward to seeing each other. I would conjecture that is not merely for the sake of the material being studied. Also, the tutoring has been going on for over one school year, a significant fraction of the time Diane has known Rhoda, and probably beyond the need to continuing tutoring, given Grace and Rhoda's abilities (Rhoda is a talented magic user who has trained herself by experimentation, not a shabby feat). Do I know for sure that Grace is closer to Rhoda than Diane is? No. Do I have reason to believe she is? Yes. Your argumentation sounds solid. However, I would add that WE saw more about the friction in their clique than Grace has (unless Rhoda was talking about it, and I don't think she's such type, based on how she kept her relationship with Catalina separate from Diane ...). So, I would still consider reasonable to assume Grace is underestimating her friendship with Rhoda or overestimating Diane's. Or, she might just want multiple angles.
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Granted, it's difficult to read the minds of fictional characters, and there is no canonical statement, but pre-change Diane was openly bitchy, and Grace has always been empathetic and friendly to pretty much everyone. Diane has know Rhoda for a while, but not a long while; a few years. There was some friction in their clique, and Rhoda was the only partially included one. Diane was condescending the few times we've seen them interact; Grace doesn't do that. It's not clear how much time Rhoda spent with Diane (and Lucy), but conjecture says, apparently not much outside of school; they didn't comment that she spent less time with them when she started tutoring or got a girlfriend. The length of tutoring sessions is also indeterminate, it could vary by an order of magnitude from around twenty minutes to a a couple of hours. Given the investment in travel time, probably more like at least an hour. We also don't know the frequency, but I'm going to assume a minimum of one a week. That's a solid hour or so of close face time in a non-judgemental setting to develop some sort of rapport. There is some evidence in their few casual encounters that they enjoy these sessions and look forward to seeing each other. I would conjecture that is not merely for the sake of the material being studied. Also, the tutoring has been going on for over one school year, a significant fraction of the time Diane has known Rhoda, and probably beyond the need to continuing tutoring, given Grace and Rhoda's abilities (Rhoda is a talented magic user who has trained herself by experimentation, not a shabby feat). Do I know for sure that Grace is closer to Rhoda than Diane is? No. Do I have reason to believe she is? Yes.
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Changing Medications (Level of Trust Required)
ProfessorTomoe replied to ProfessorTomoe's topic in Off Topic Discussion
I've had to set up a new appointment with my regular doctor. The 100mg dose of gabapentin is no longer working on the facial nerve pain from the dental appointment. I'm going to ask the doctor for a larger dose, or for something else that works better. Until then, I'm doubling the dose here at home. -
Well, I'm certainly not waiting for it. He's well behind Rhoda and Catalina, but I suspect that Noah will one day be part of the main cast. In fact, between the big deal Dan made of him when he was introduced, and the fact that he was made to be Elliot's friend, I suspect that Dan has always intended him to become a major character if not one of the main group, it just hasn't worked out that way (yet). Charlotte has all the makings of an important character, particularly if we get more focus on Ellen and Nanase's adventures. Liz seems okay being outside the group, but between how much she cares about Ashley and her having been implied to have magic, I expect her to get more focus in the future, and after that who knows. If Diane and Rhoda are both main characters, it would be strange for Lucy to be left out; besides, romantic partners have a tendency to be drawn into the main group (or at least it worked that way with Ashley). Luke and Sam are on my list because they are in relationships with main characters. But yes, they're nowhere near ready to be main characters; this is why I specified they would be candidates if the relationships got serious (if the relationships get serious they will likely get lot more panel time and spend more time with the current main characters, but if the relationships don't go anywhere I expect them to fade out of the narrative once their plotlines are complete). Other characters I can think of off the top of my head that I expect to get more panel time and who might far in the future become main characters (or at least get their own storyline) are Rhea, Akiko, and (together) Kitty & Felix. (And also the Germahn Labs crew, but besides a few cameos we haven't even seen them in canon yet.)
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I feel like if there were people crazy enough to stick around to see the whole event, then there would like have been some that would even stay to tell reporters, the news Sarah and other people read should have reflected that. He didn't imply that there for certain were people in the parking lot, he implied that Ashley was erring on the side of caution in case someone happened to be out there and see them before they got to Elliot's car. It's not a definite, but even if the parking lot was completely empty of other people, it's still a good idea to act like there might be someone else there.
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I'm under the impression that Dan didn't want to draw any more fleeing bystanders that didn't have anything to contribute to the story in his head at the time. He implied that there are people in the parking lot when Ashley undid her ponytail to change her appearance, but didn't show any other people who weren't developed characters until after Tara destroyed the spider vampire. He also didn't show the train that delayed Ellen, Nanase, and Ashley; it was just "sound effects" including "CHOO-CHOO" which was absolutely absurd--I haven't seen an actual working steam locomotive since 1955! I think I made that last point before, but I'm going to elaborate: Steam locomotives in the United States were well on their way to be replaced by diesels or electrics by the end of the 1930s. World War II gave them a reprieve. Anyway, the second incident in the Moperville Mall in less than a week should have drawn a lot of police, media, and lookie-loos, and Dan could pull all sorts of plot points from that premise if he wants to at any time.
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He's not that old, but I still think his chance to be counted is same as Edward Verres or Adrian Raven's himself. I was under the impression that the mall had been evacuated I though it's only called evacuation if it's organized, and not when just everyone ran away. Or Susan was more memorable Sarah probably watched just normal news. CHARLOTTE watched the youtube videos done by people who found all recordings of the event and analyzed it frame by frame. Something like when they analyze trailers to new blockbuster movies. (Well, expected-to-be-blockbusters at least.) Or maybe she was CREATING those. We still don't know if Arthur managed to confiscate all security cameras footage. NEXT page shows Pandora discussing with Susan and Adrian. Someone might've noticed that. And some people with camera phones are stupid enough to risk more than professional war reporters. And frankly, I'm not exactly sure that Dan wanted to draw more bystanders than absolutely necessary ... ... although there likely wasn't anyone around for the final discussion.
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I was under the impression that the mall had been evacuated by then, obviously people saw Susan save the kid being chased by the one aberration, but Sarah was confused when Susan said "someone else" and stated the the news only mentioned "a woman with a sword and a fairy" so it would seem apparent that Adrian wasn't seen fighting the other aberrations. This page is the last time in that part of the story that we see bystanders running and then every page in that part since shows a rather empty part of the mall except for our heroes and the aberrations.
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George already knows everything
