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  3. Posted

    16 hours ago, 989fox989 said:

    Abner, possibly Susan's (biological) dad?  The two look really similar.

    Haha, what is with everyone suddenly being related to main characters? But seriously, nah. He's too young.

    12 hours ago, hkmaly said:

    I though the facepalm was "Yes I'm aware vampires exists, I'm almost one of them."

    "Almost?"

    12 hours ago, hkmaly said:

    Well they certainly can't be old friends if Abner is mortal.

    Not THAT old friends. Still, they might have known each other for a few years. Like I said, anything's possible.

    12 hours ago, hkmaly said:

    Hmmm ... involved ... Carol is still single as far as we know, right? ... would she be enough femme fatale for noir?

    ...I could ship it. :demonicduck:

  4. Posted

    It's a very good theory and I've thought of it myself. Still, somehow I have a feeling that Magus doesn't want anyone to know about him unless absolutely necessary, especially H&D and Mr. Verres. After all, Pandora did warn Edward, Wolf and Cranium about Magus, calling him a "hawk" and them "little mice". Of course, she was probably lying, but Edward might have taken her seriously and therefore he might not trust Magus even if he came clean about everything.

  7. Posted

    Voltaire, eh? Well, now we know he's definitely evil.

    So, it was Whitey- er, Volty who let Sirleck know that H&D are no longer watching Elliot all the time. I understand his need for a middle man - if Sirleck knew that other immortals are aware of him, he'd immediately try to cancel the plan because he would know that he's dead meat no matter what. It would seem that Volty's Plan CM involves Magus gaining control of Elliot's body, but I don't see how that would help him stop Pandora, especially since Pandora used to help Magus in the past too. Then again, there are probably many ways he could manipulate someone into attacking Elliot if they believed that would break Magus's hold on him or something. As for Sirleck, he's not getting what he wants, that's for sure. Since he apparently exists purely on the spirit plane, I'm sure Volty could get rid of him by snapping his fingers as soon as he's not useful to him anymore.

    Speaking of which, Abner seems like a cool dude, so I hope Volty doesn't plan to get rid of him too as soon as he's no longer useful. I'd hate to see Abner kick the bucket on the next page.

    13 hours ago, ijuin said:

    Note Sirleck's facepalm--while having Helena and Demetrius distracted from Elliot is a good thing for his plan, having them over-focused on hunting Aberrations obviously makes him more vulnerable.

    I actually think he's facepalming because he thinks the PI he hired found out what he needed to know in such a silly way and then told a vampire that vampires are real. Of course, we know that Abner was just trolling him with that remark.

    13 hours ago, ijuin said:

    So, "Plan CM" apparently begins with inducing Sirleck (and Magus) to make a move. Either Voltaire has set a trap for them, or else stopping Magus/Sirleck's plans was not Voltaire's motivation for needing Elliot dead for "Plan A". I still think at this point that Voltaire's motive for killing Elliot was for the emotional effect that it would have on Tedd, Nanase, and the rest of "the pawns of Chaos" (i.e. all of our friends who were Marked or otherwise manipulated by Pandora).

    I believe it's a trap and I also think Voltaire needs Elliot dead because he's somehow crucial to Pandora's master plan. Of course, emotionally upsetting all of Elliot's friends would also help Volty, I'm sure.

    12 hours ago, ProfessorTomoe said:

    Exactly. How chummy-chummy are Abner and Voltaire, and how did they get that way? Did Voltaire give Abner one of the Symbols On The Back that haven't all been accounted for yet? Which one?

    Good questions. Abner seems to be a magical PI, which means he's either magical himself, only does PI work for magical clients or both. He might have gotten magic all by himself or he could have been marked by an immortal. As for how these two know each other, it could be as simple as Volty hiring him for this one job a few months ago. They're not necessarily old friends or anything. In other words, we don't know anything about these two yet and anything is possible. However, I don't think Abner is an elf.

    9 hours ago, Scotty said:

    Still I did not expect Whitey Sanders informing Sirleck in this way. It's still confusing though, Voltaire wants Elliot dead for some reason, Sirleck wants Elliot alive because Magus needs him alive, what does Voltaire plan to do when Sirleck gets a hold of Elliot?

    Sirleck does not want to possess Elliot. That would be incredibly stupid of him. Like I said, I think Voltaire is most likely leading Sirleck into a trap. As for Magus, who knows? Volty might not care if Magus survives as long as Elliot doesn't.

    2 hours ago, Don Edwards said:

    What's interesting is the assumption that Helena and Demitrius were BOTH watching Elliot 24/7. Together. Every moment. Aside from being obviously unnecessary, we know it isn't true and they even say they're only "keeping tabs" on him. Even if they intended to maintain a 24-hour on-the-spot guard, it wouldn't require both of them at every moment.

    Good point. I've never even thought of that before. I guess they're just used to doing everything together.

  8. Posted

    On 16.4.2016 at 5:04 AM, Xenophon Hendrix said:

    My best guess for Sirleck's most probable spy is Colonel Sanders pretending to be mortal. Whitey wanted Elliot dead, and Sirleck needs him alive, but this could all be part of plan "complicated mess."

    It's possible, I guess. Whitey might be pretending to help Sirleck to get both Elliot and Sirleck killed in the end. Somehow. Still, I think Sirleck's spy is most likely a character we haven't seen yet.

    On 16.4.2016 at 6:14 AM, Don Edwards said:

    If Sirleck is considering Elliot, or anyone known to be a close friend of Elliot, as a possible next host, he's a complete idiot. There are several fairly-high-power magic users in there - just among the human teenagers, and Sirleck should be aware of a minimum of one and possibly four or more. At least two of Elliot's friends have family connections - one of them extremely obvious - to DGB and full-blown wizards, There are three Immortals involved that we know Sirleck is aware of. That's a firing squad already assembling itself; stepping in front of it and yelling FIRE! would be Darwin-Award-worthy.

    So what does Sirleck want with Elliot? To get rid of Magus.

    Exactly. Just because Helena and Demetrius don't watch Elliot 24/7, it doesn't mean that they don't watch him at all anymore.

    However, I don't think Sirleck wants to get rid of Magus at all. More like the exact opposite.

    On 16.4.2016 at 3:41 PM, Scotty said:

    That's just Magus though, but Magus not only looks like Elliot, but if his plan works, he'll be in Elliot's body and the number of people that know Elliot can at the very least be counted on both hands and feet, and I'm thinking that those around Elliot when Ellen zaps him will notice an immediate change in Elliot's behaviour.

    Hmm, does Magus look exactly like Elliot? We've seen him in his physical form only once and that was years ago. They might look similar, but not identical. Also, it doesn't really matter because Magus would remain invisible while in Elliot's body and after gaining a body for himself he would most likely immediately start looking for a way home. Unless Sirleck manages to take over his body, that is.

    Also also, Magus isn't really a bad guy and he is smart. I think he would do a very good job impersonating Elliot until he got his chance to slip away from everyone and get to the Diamond.

  11. Posted

    18 minutes ago, Vorlonagent said:

    The thought of Sirleck possessing Elliot really does creep me out.  Perhaps because I strongly connect with Elliot.

    No, I very much doubt Sirleck wants to possess Elliot's body. Vampires are afraid of immortals and Helena and Demetrius would definitely be able to notice Sirleck possessing Elliot. Magus probably intends to create a new body for himself by making Elliot touch the Dewitchery Diamond after Ellen's zapped him into Elliot's body/mind and Sirleck intends to use Magus's new body as a host.

  14. Posted

    Sirleck is back. Yay? (Not yay.) And he seems to have a spy working for him, but it can't be the white immortal. Sirleck and Magus need Elliot alive and Whitey wants him dead. So who is the spy?

    I hope it's not Charlotte, Ashley or Diane! Luckily I don't see how that would even be possible, unless Dan wants to really shock us.

    So... Let's do a count of all the parties involved in this Complicated Mess:

    1) Pandora, who is most likely the one who clogged the magic drain and apparently needs Elliot for something

    2) Helena and Demetrius, who clearly have sworn to protect Elliot for some reason

    3) Whitey and his friends who want Elliot dead for some reason, possibly to stop Pandora

    4) Sirleck, Magus and their spy. Magus needs Elliot alive to gain a physical form, Sirleck wants Magus to get what he wants so he can presumably double-cross him and possess his new body. They are probably the ones paying vampires to go to Moperville to distract Helena and Demetrius

    5) Jerry. Although we haven't seen him tonight and he has nothing to do with Elliot, I have a feeling that he would make the most dependable ally against everyone who's out to hurt the Main Eight. I think he could even work with Helena and Demetrius after giving them a piece of his mind and learning more about them and their motives. (The problem with that is, of course, the fact that H&D don't remember all their motives themselves.)

    Did I forget anyone?

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  15. Posted

    Yep, now it's certain that this guy is not on Pandora's side. If I had to guess, I'd say that he and some other immortals are working together to bring Pandora down because they're tired of her constantly bending the rules and trying to cause an apocalypse and junk. Elliot is clearly essential to Pandora's master plan, so killing him really would have been the easiest way to slow Pandora down and force her to think of something else. I'm guessing that by removing her players or otherwise making her plan more difficult, they're hoping that they'll make Pandora eventually lose control and break the immortals' rules in such a way that they'll finally be able to confront and stop her.

    I'm also guessing that Jerry, Helena and Demetrius don't want anything to do with this guy and his lot. They probably don't even know what he's trying to do in the long run and just assume that he wants to kill Elliot for some reason. In other words, poor communication kills.

    17 hours ago, Scotty said:

    Another option is he's assisting Lord Tedd, the goo was sent to kill Tedd but after the first attempt was thwarted by Elliot the goo needed to kill Elliot first, after the second attempt failed, maybe Lord Tedd called in a favour with the colonel here.

    That's an interesting theory. It's certainly possible, but I personally think that immortals and Lord Tedd's group are completely different sets of villains and are not working together.

    4 hours ago, Pharaoh RutinTutin said:

    I am wondering if a plan involving a single murder might be regarded as a nonviolent solution?

    At least among a certain group of immortals who may well see humans as disposable and view removing an undesirable or unneeded person the same way we would treat removing a weed from a garden.

    This, exactly. I think the white immortal and his friends don't care about humanity much, but they still have the decendy to kill as few humans as possible while trying to stop Pandora. However, this was only their Plan A. Plan CM might cause a massive bloodbath for all we know and if that's the case, then one thing is for certain - they want to stop Pandora's apocalypse by any means necessary. I'm sure they think they're doing everything for the greater good.

  16. Posted

    16 hours ago, hkmaly said:

    Tedd is one-tracked enough to not really became interested in DNA samples while working on something else.

    True, and he has been working on many things over the past year.

    16 hours ago, hkmaly said:

    I didn't say it would be likely. I said it would be funny. He certainly knows about Diane's existence, he likely know or suspect her talent, but yes, I doubt he'd blurt out something like that unless he already decided that he would need to tell them anyway.

    On the other hand, if he would really plan to use Nanase for protecting Diane (due to the fact that as already mentioned, his options are limited now), he MIGHT decide she's in need to know.

    It seems I phrased that rather poorly. Of course Edward knows that Diane exists, but until recently, he's probably never had a reason to worry about her or mention her to the Main Eight. Now that Elliot, Ellen and Nanase (and Ashley) know that she is Susan's sister and needs protection, he might as well tell them everything he knows. I really want to see the entire Main Eight and Edward gathered together to hear each other's stories in the next storyline. It will be cramped and dialogue-y, but I have faith in Dan.

    5 hours ago, ijuin said:

    It would be QUITE amusing for Diane to encounter girl-mode Tedd before boy-mode Tedd . . .

    Yes, but I don't think Diane would be very shocked. After all, she already knows one sex-swapping dude.

  17. Posted

    Are you saying that bullies calling Tedd a girl made him want to become one and later made him realize he's genderfluid? I'm sorry, but that seems pretty far-fetched to me. Then again, I suppose one of the reasons why Tedd doesn't want to talk to Edward about his genderfluidity could be that he has already told him about the bullies before. Maybe he's afraid that Edward will somehow blame him for giving in to the bullies or something other highly illogical nonsense like that.

  20. Posted

    Adorable. The only thing I don't like is Ashley's mouse costume's feet because they creep me out. Well, actually, I'm not a fan of the face paint either, but it's not so bad. One thing is for sure, this party isn't happening at Tedd's. I wonder who invited these three to their party and why did they not tell each other about it.

  22. Posted

    5 hours ago, The Old Hack said:

    In story time, Tedd has had maybe three or four days total to learn what he is, absorb it and cope with the shock. Are you really saying that this is enough time to prepare himself to go to the father he no longer trusts in this area and who has hurt him again and again?

    Actually, in story time, Tedd only learned that he is genderfluid yesterday. So yeah, you make a good point, Tedd is definitely not ready to talk to his father about it yet, but when they do talk about it, I believe Edward will be much more understanding than you give him credit for. He's just worried about his son and doesn't know how to express it. Let's hope that Pandora or anyone else will not sabotage their relationship any more before Tedd is ready to talk.

  25. Posted

    Way to jinx it, Elliot. Eh, who am I kidding, he's probably right.

    On 11.4.2016 at 6:38 PM, Scotty said:

    Ahh, I don't think Tedd's met Diane at all yet. He might be aware of her existence from Grace talking about her, but Grace might not have mentioned how she looks like Susan or we probably would have seen him trying to get DNA samples or something to find out if they were related.

    Um, why would Grace NOT have mentioned Diane looking like Susan to Tedd, especially when she saw what a big deal it seemed to be to Ellen and Nanase? Maybe Tedd just wasn't interested in finding out if Susan had a twin sister she didn't know about for some reason.

    On 11.4.2016 at 6:38 PM, Scotty said:

    Yeah that's also why I see Edward being initially upset that all this happened, but ultimately do what he can to help the main eight deal with stuff like this.

    Agreed. I admit that those kids have some reasons to not confide in Edward as much as they should, but they really should realize that everything he does is to protect them.

    However, I doubt he can do anything to protect Elliot's secret, especially since Elliot was already known as the guy who punches monsters and talks to griffins before tonight. Looks like it's time to "adapt or die" for Edward as well. Let's see if he's better at it than Arthur.

    21 hours ago, hkmaly said:

    I already mentioned that Edward may say "Damn we need to do something with Diane" upon hearing about the aberrations even before Nanase and Elliot mention her. Or even better: "Damn, we must give Susan and Diane better protection".

    Hmm, I'm not so sure. Edward may know about Diane's existence, but I doubt he'd blurt out something like that in front of Elliot and Nanase before he was sure that they know Diane is Susan's sister.