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SeriousJupiter
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Easter eggs. Nom.
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19 hours ago, Scotty said:Well, it really depends on if Grace and/or Ellen have Adrian for any classes this year, I say and/or because it's possible that the provision for Grace and Ellen to have the same schedule only applied to the previous year so that Ellen could help Grace adjust to being in school, there's a good chance Grace doesn't need that anymore.
Why would it depend on that? If Raven really wanted to train Grace and/or her friends, he could easily talk to them outside of class. Still, I think it's up to the Main Eight to ask him first if they want his help.
18 hours ago, hkmaly said:It's possible that after Edward hears about the number of vampires, HE will ask Greg to train them in combat. It is questionable if DGB have anyone as good for training as Greg is, and enlisting them in DGB would put them under Arthur Arthur's orders ...
I'm sure DGB has some competent magic teachers, but yes, I also think it'd be wiser to train with Greg or Raven. Arthur may not be an antagonist, but he doesn't seem to be very useful as a leader and I doubt he'd want a bunch of kids learning magic under his supervision, especially since he still wants to keep the availability of magic a secret. Of course, I could be wrong and the only way he would want those kids to learn magic would be under his supervision, but that might not end well.
18 hours ago, hkmaly said:Actually, I would say that YES, he did decided that he shouldn't do to Grace what he did to Noriko. This might include not planing to train her, although he may change mind if asked OR if he notices what's happening and that he needs as many people as he can get.
Note that I don't think it's Greg OR Raven: Raven can teach magic, but he is likely limited in physical training. Most of main eight would benefit from BOTH training them.
I agree with all of this.
13 hours ago, ijuin said:Adrian knows about Grace and Nanase and Ellen (even if he doesn't know any of Ellen's specific spells/powers beyond that she is Awakened and has the Dewitchery Diamond-granted ability). He knows about Tedd even if he doesn't know the details of Tedd's "dangerous rarity" or Tedd's ability to in-depth analyze magic by sight. He may suspect that Elliot is Awakened (especially if he knows that it was Elliot who was split by the Diamond to create Ellen), but he probably has no awareness of Sarah or Susan at all, and Justin is probably also outside of his radar.
Like Scotty already said, Raven most likely sensed Justin's power as well. My guess is that he sensed the skills Justin had learned at the ASMA dojo before he got his mark.
Anyway, wow, I was way off when I said that Raven doesn't know about most of the Main Eight. I think you're right, Sarah and Susan are probably the only ones he hasn't met or heard of. Noah told him about Elliot, but it's unknown if Noah told him that Elliot is Ellen's brother, though I don't see why he wouldn't have told him that.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot, EVERYONE knows Elliot now, so it really doesn't even matter how much Raven knew about him before.
4 hours ago, Cpt. Obvious said:My current theory is that it all started when Adrian moved there, and that she did it in order to ensure he had easy access to an ample amount of magic. In other words she was trying to be nice to her son.
Once she decided that remodeling the world in order to make it a better place for Adrian, turning off the drain entirely was just a matter of tweaking whatever she'd already done to it all those years ago.
This theory has some holes in it. I don't doubt that Pandora was the one who slowed the flow of magic in Moperville years ago, but it can't have happened when Raven first moved there. Remember, Raven taught Tedd's parents and Nanase's mom in high school and the whale said that Moperville had had more magic than usual for "most of Tedd's life" - in other words, long after Raven moved to Moperville and taught Tedd's parents.
I believe that Raven had a big fight with his mother fourteen years ago for whatever reason, and that's when she decided to slow the flow of magic in Moperville to either give her son more magic to use as an apology or to see him struggle to figure out just what the hell had happened.
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The leftover cookies from yesterday.
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Silence, Doctor. Silence will fall.
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The Invisible Book of Invisibility.
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Delicious, delicious cookies.
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3 hours ago, Wildcat said:...Technically Pokemon counts, but as a battle game with kinda nightmarish morality if you think too hard about it, I kinda doubt it's the type of thing she's looking for.
Grace is not against battle games with cartoonish violence and we know she has already played some Pokémon. In one sketchbook, she told Sarah that she caught a Furfrou and named it Susan.
Granted, that might not have been canon, but it was still funny and I can totally see her doing that.
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Oh yeah, I somehow forgot Raven. Still, seeing as he doesn't know about most of the Main Eight and that they all know about him, I don't see him volunteering to train anyone any time soon unless the Main Eight make the first move. Also, yes, I know he seemed to have some plans for Grace, but he hasn't done anything about that in over six months. He's either not in a hurry (possibly waiting for Grace to graduate first) or then he changed his mind and decided to leave Grace out of his life for Tedd's sake.
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35 minutes ago, ijuin said:And by the standards of most societies before college became an expected thing for middle-class people (as recent as WWII!!!), 18 is full adulthood. Remember, even today an 18 year old is considered old enough to serve in a nation's military and go out and fight to the death at their government's behest.
Susan still needs training first. Greg is my best bet.
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It seems I was right when I said there was no way the griffins' world would lose all of its magic because of one clogged drain. Nice.
On the other hand, I couldn't have been more wrong about Andrea observing the Vampider for a while and waiting for a right moment to strike. Based on what she said in this comic, whenever she sees a vampire, she kills it first and asks questions later. Not a fighter, my ass.
11 hours ago, Scotty said:....Ok, so there WERE other vampires in the area. I guess if it weren't for spidervamp pulling out the bombs, Andrea could have had a 7th kill.
The bombs might have killed the Vampider as well. That would have made it a draw.
11 hours ago, liontari said:So, any speculation on all the plot threads that Dan says he is pulling, including the supposedly invisible ones? When the topic of discussion shifts to vampire and monster hunters, you can't not think of Noriko. But I doubt the griffins know anything about her specifically.
Others have mentioned Diane and Susan's relationship, Helena and Demetrius, the magic buildup attracting monsters, alternate universes, Lord Tedd, Magus and Sirleck and Tedd investigating the magic buildup. The only other plot thread I can think of is Greg training Grace and Ellen. It's possible that when Ellen finally realizes that Susan needs to be told about Diane, she will ask Greg to train the sisters in combat. I don't think Greg has ever personally fought vampires and I'm not sure how he even teaches people magic in the first place, but he's clearly doing something right and I don't think the DGB would be interested in training two teenagers before they're even out of high school.
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I just ate a lollipop.
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Squishy the Zygarde Core.
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Binge-watching MLP FiM before season six starts next Saturday. I can't believe it, but I seem to like some of the worse episodes of the series more now after not seeing them in months or even years. I think I'll still skip Tanks for the Memories, though.
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The Hide-Behind from Gravity Falls.
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12 minutes ago, Scotty said:I'm saying that as magic flows back into the main eight's half, there will be some that tries to flow into Moperville and get caught, that's how the buildup is occurring. Eventuallty less will get into the griffin's half of the world. the energy flow hasn't shown any signs of being diverted away from Moperville. Best example I can come up with is take 5 sinks, fill them with water, and have them all drain into 1 bin with a pump that redistributes the water back to the 5 sinks evenly. Now plug up one of the sinks, water from the other 4 still goes into the bin and gets pumped to all 5 again, the 5th sink is overflowing with water and eventually the amount of water going to the other sinks disappears.
I get what you're saying, but that analogy doesn't really work in this case, because unlike the water in the fifth sink, the magic in Moperville will eventually find a way back to the other side of the world unless Pandora clogs all the other drains too, like you said yourself.
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7 minutes ago, Scotty said:The fact that Magic sent Disco Wizard to warn Grace about Pandora and a possible system change shows that it sees they have the potential to solve the problem, whether it's got others in on it is unknown but at the very least magic does seem to trust the main eight.
I hope so. I'd hate to think that magic is only amusing itself by giving teenagers an impossible task.
8 minutes ago, Scotty said:Pandora probably doesn't know that what she's doing could backfire, unless a system change is what she wants, though I'm not sure how that would allow Adrian to use his abilities freely. I want to lean towards Pandora not knowing that Magic has a will of it's own though. Of course she recently became aware of someone or something telling Grace about magic marks and such, so she may soon become aware of Magic as an entity.
Yes, if she starts haunting Grace's dreams and pretends to be a friend, she will learn things that might make her either reconsider what she's doing or decide that what she's doing is exactly the right thing. It all depends on what her plan is. We may think we know it, but we could be wrong.
8 minutes ago, Scotty said:No, it's not the only place, I'm basing my theory on the possibility that there aren't any other drains close enough to catch the overflow.
Even so, not all of Earth's magic goes to Moperville. Magic is all around the planet. There's no way one clog will cause the other side of the world to lose all of its magic.
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23 hours ago, Scotty said:I would think if it was that simple, magic would have done so already, either diverted the flow to say Detroit or Thunder Bay, or even create a new drain in Chicago. I'm guessing that magic, having a flair for the dramatic, also wants to see what the main eight does to fix this and is tossing hints here and there (via Disco Wizard) while munching on a bowl of popcorn. The system change would be a last resort if the main eight fails and/or things go too wildly out of hand.
Not a bad theory. However, does magic really trust eight teenagers to be able to solve the problem or is it secretly recruiting other people for the job as well? If nobody can help and magic can't fix the problem either, maybe a system change would indeed be for the best. I don't know if I would want to read storylines about every magic user pretty much having to start from scratch and learning to use their spells again, but it might be interesting.
21 hours ago, hkmaly said:... and the system change may or may not be related. I see two separate issues here: the inbalance of magic, magic clog and buildup AND the end of masquerade, more magic users and currently unknown parts of Pandora's plan and system change. Pandora is using the magic buildup to power the end of masquerade, maybe even caused it, but it's just tool for her, the goal is end of masquerade. And magic may respond independently to the clog itself and to the general danger of Pandora's plan.
The question is, does Pandora know that what she's doing might cause a system change, or does she actually want that to happen? Pandora is extremely good at predicting things, but I doubt even she can predict exactly what kind of system change might happen. Magic might become so erratic and difficult to learn that perhaps it will even be easier for DGB to keep the availability of magic a secret (assuming, of course, that it's still a secret by that time). Pandora is doing all of this to help her son act freely and do whatever he wants, but who knows, the system change might make things harder for him too.
Of course, Pandora is insane and takes pleasure in not knowing what happens next, so it's likely that she knows all this and just doesn't care.
7 hours ago, hkmaly said:I'm sure sudden release of the buildup will be more damaging than dam breaking ... hey, maybe THAT is what Pandora is planing ...
What, she wants to damage the griffins' world? Why would she want that? I don't think that would help Adrian in any way.
6 hours ago, Scotty said:The whale did tell Tedd that magic in the area had reached a peak and is now slowly spreading outwards, so it's basically like the kitchen sink filling up and overflowing, except instead of water flowing from one source, magic is coming in from multiple sources but it can only be concentrated so much in a single area, hence the peak. That would go along with my idea that not only could all the magic from the griffin's half of the world be drained, but much of the main eight's half of the world could end up condensed in the middle of North America.
Once again, Moperville is not the only place where magic flows back to the griffins' world, so no, it's highly unlikely that all the magic would be drained from the griffins' world unless every other place where it flows back would get clogged too.
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3 minutes ago, Wildcat said:On the other hand. The flows of magic might eventually adjust, with more flowing through the other "drains" and eventually acting like there was never one in Moperville to start with.
I agree. Remember, magic has a mind of its own (probably). I'm sure it would figure out how to restore the balance sooner or later.
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32 minutes ago, Wildcat said:I find it hard to believe it doesn't cause problems of some sort on their side. My best guess would be as you said about making it harder to learn new magic. So if it persists it might cause the slow die out of magic users over there
Okay, maybe there are some problems on their side, but I very much doubt that eventual extinction of magic users is one of them. Did you miss the part where I said that Andrea mentioned that Moperville is not the only place where magic flows back to their side?
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Ah, chess. I was once quite fond of it, but then I got tired of losing. I'm not sure I even remember all the rules anymore, but at least I remember how all the pieces move.
Anyway, yay, Dan didn't forget his promise and now we know that this storyline takes place after Elliot and Sarah's break-up and before the card games like almost everyone figured out a long time ago!
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I just reread Painted Black today so I could answer some of your questions.
On 15.3.2016 at 2:28 AM, hkmaly said:Speaking about young girl ... how old was Grace when Damien attacked?
She was thirteen. The comic where we see the attack says "four and a half years ago". Grace was still seventeen when she was recaptured by Damien.
On 17.3.2016 at 1:51 PM, Pharaoh RutinTutin said:My guess as to why Edward Verres did not insist that Grace should live with her family once the Damien issue was resolved was that "the family" was being moved to an undisclosed facility.
Also, he had promised Dr. Sciuridae to take care of Grace long before that and Sciuridae and Edward had both agreed to let her live with him after Grace first showed up at his house and Sciuridae believed that hadn't changed after Damien's death. Clearly, he was right.
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So the energy clog is stopping magic from entering the griffins' world? That doesn't sound good. If I had to guess, I'd say it probably doesn't make the magic users in that world weaker, but it might stop them from learning new magic. Then again, Andrea pretty much said that Moperville is not the only place where magic travels between the two worlds, so maybe the problem is not at the griffins' end at all. They might just be worried that this half of the world can't handle too much ambient magic.
Also, haha, Steven Universe. Awesome.
1 hour ago, Zorua said:Great. Now we have to wonder if Lord Tedd's/Beta Tedd's/Magus's universes are other faces of this one's die or other dice/coins entirely. As if the multiverse wasn't complicated enough.
I believe all those universes are different coins, but if the dice theory is more correct, then it's entirely possible that all the universes seen in the comic so far are connected to each other.
3 minutes ago, Wildcat said:Do I get to feel a little smug for the coin metaphor now?
Absolutely. I just wish I had been the first one to say it.
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Meatballs.
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Uryuoms fishing in space.
Story Wednesday March 23, 2016
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Helena and Demetrius might be siblings? I thought they were a couple all this time. How do immortals reproduce, anyway? We know they can do it with humans, but that results in elves. Do immortals have parents or were they all somehow born at the same time a long time ago? Did they possibly evolve from lesser beings over time? Or are they *gasp* aliens?!
Whatever the case, they clearly don't like vampires and are willing to do anything to get rid of them. I'm positive that Helena and Demetrius withheld information from Andrea. Yes, they died improperly, but that happened a while ago and they've had time to learn things, even if they still don't remember why they're following Elliot. I'm sure they noticed/sensed Tara at some point and just didn't intend to tell Andrea about her until they had no choice.
I absolutely know what you mean, but I just want to point out that perhaps vampires in EGS don't have blood in their bodies like they don't in most fiction. It's possible that after Susan killed the vampire, it simply turned to dust. I know you guys discussed this on the old forums, but I felt like mentioning it again.
Gerald. And no, I don't think she was nearly as mad at him as she is now, even though she seems to be trying to control her rage.
Maybe not, but at least a fully grown griffin that already has experience with vampires is a better recruit than two kids.
I agree. Dan said that immortals are much more willing to act directly when dealing with Aberrations, so I doubt that Helena and Demetrius are the only immortals in history to have recruited humans to kill vampires, but you're still probably right about the other immortals choosing to contact the government instead of recruiting kids or tricking lost griffins. Of course, I'm assuming that there aren't any other immortals hanging around Moperville besides the ones we have seen so far, or Edward would have known about all those vampires by now.