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      Welcome!   03/05/2016

      Welcome, everyone, to the new 910CMX Community Forums. I'm still working on getting them running, so things may change.  If you're a 910 Comic creator and need your forum recreated, let me know and I'll get on it right away.  I'll do my best to make this new place as fun as the last one!

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  1. So you want to make a Webcomic...?

    Thom Revor
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    By Thom Revor,

    I was sitting in traffic the other day when a very dirty and disheveled man walked past on the side of the road.  This is not an uncommon occurrence in any city, but the writer in me couldn't let it go.

    Who was that person?  What paths led him here?  Was it by choice or circumstance?

    And then the scenarios began running through my head.  He could have been a former executive who through a bad choice ended up losing everything.  He could've been a foreign agent, disguised as part of the "invisible crowd" so as to scope out his target.  He could've been someone who was just having a very bad day -- Murphy's law run amuck.

    These are the sort of things you should ask yourself when you create characters.  Characters in your webcomics should be more than just the two dimensional figure on the screen.  They should live and breathe in your head.  You should know their background, their likes and dislikes, their loves and their fears.

    Back when Darin Brown and I did a filler comic for John Lotshaw's Accidental Centaurs, we had a scene where one of the main characters went into a bar.  As such, we wanted to do a riff on Cheers.  So, instead of "Woody", we got "Wood-eye".  The popular barfly was "Nahrm".  A Naga in the background was "Kalif".  With the exception of Nahrm (who, as the town blacksmith, was instrumental to the story), they were all what I call "throwaway characters".  They were there... then they were gone.

    Except...  they weren't.

    Take the character of the bartender Wood-eye.  Why "Wood-eye"?  Well...  obviously he had to have a wooden eye, which means he lost an eye somehow.  How did he lose it?  So, the bartender became a former soldier and he lost it in battle.  If he was a soldier, what did he do?  

    And from there, a throwaway character -- just for my own sake -- began to take on a life of its own.

    I never expected to do anything with these characters again.  They were for a short run of comics made to expand out the background of one of Accidental Centaurs' main characters, to give him a little more character (no pun intended) within the comic himself by giving him armor and a sword.  But people began asking about Woodeye and Nahrm.  People *liked* them.  People wanted to see more of them. 

    I credit that to the strength of the characters.  That, in the short time they were around, had something that made people wonder about them.  They had questions about these characters and wanted to know more.  And that's when Darin and I started up our own comic of Crossworlds.  Where the throwaway and joke character of Woodeye became much more than just that.  We got to see more about him and the other characters.  And where their lives and situations became more than just a couple of strips.

    Now, I'm not saying you have to have an encyclopedia-sized history for each and every figure that appears in your comic.  In fact, an overly detailed background can actually be hazardous to story telling.  There need to be gaps in to which your characters history can grow.  

    But don't hesitate to ask yourself the questions of who they are.  Sometimes you'll surprise  yourself.

    And they may surprise you, too.

  2. Community Rules

    Thom Revor
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    By Thom Revor,

    We don't want people to consider this place as a hazard zone where upcoming forms of entertainment will be spoiled. So, there are a couple of rules that need to be established.

    First and foremost, if you somehow get your hands on something months, weeks, or even a few days before something is released DO NOT post spoilers. Even if you highlight these spoilers beforehand to warn people they will not be tolerated until the product in question has been officially released.

    Secondly, once something is released, please do highlight spoilers before they can be visible to people. (note: I'm going to make a topic in the Mod Forum and see if we can all agree on how old something has to be before spoiler warnings aren't needed and will edit this post to reflect that later)

  3. Info for New Users

    Thom Revor
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    By Thom Revor,

    Alrighty, so here's the second post dealing with quotes, and the issues with them. Also the neat things.

    On 3/6/2016 at 3:21 AM, Matoyak said:

    Quotes

    Speaking of quoting, there's some wacky stuff going on with this at the moment as well. In the forum you have three options to quote people: The first I do not recommend if possible, and that is to click the " button in the WYSIWYG editor. It will drop a quote box into the forum like so:

    The reason I do not recommend using this is within the quote. It doesn't create any information that helps give context to the quote, such as who said it, when they said it, etc. It also does not link back to the original post like the other methods do. You should only really use this method if you are quoting someone outside of the forums, such as Dan Shive or Shigeru Miyamoto or Frank Sinatra or someone.

    By default the forum currently is only showing one level of nesting when quoting another post. This is problematic, as I will demonstrate later. First let's clarify what I mean by "nesting" anyways (most users will know what this means, but eh, might as well play it safe).

    The other options for quoting are to hit the quote button on a post, or to hit the "+" button, which will create a list of all the posts you click this plus on while reading a particular forum thread. (It could possibly work across multiple threads, but I haven't tried that out just yet. I'll do so in a bit and edit this post with the results). The benefits of doing it this way is that it captures the context of the original post. I will create a second post to further discuss quotes immediately after this one, in order to better demonstrate the issues the forum has with quotes, and the nifty things it can do with them as well.

        Let's deal with the cool stuff first. I created this quote by hitting the quote button, and you'll notice that in the header of the quote there is a time stamp, my name, and a little arrow thing on the left and the right. If you click that right arrow, it will take you to the post directly. This is what I mean when I say it "captures the context of the post" (I'm not the best with words, y'see, and I dunno how else to describe that). Notice that the manually created ones in the previous post don't have the right arrow? No linkback info, no name or time...means no context. Additionally, if you click the name of the person being quoted, it'll take you to their profile page as you'd expect. The left arrow seems to take you to the start of the topic. EDIT: Nope, this is incorrect. The left arrow will open and close the quote box itself. Super nice! I was middle-clicking, thinking it was a link).

        Now here's the issue: As it currently stands (On March 6, 2016 at 3:35AM Central Time), the forums only show ONE level of nesting. If you look at my quote here, you'll see there are no other quotes contained within. This is a pretty serious problem if you're quoting someone's post with lots of quotes in it, huh?* It means there's no context for what they're saying in it! Huh. How can we get around that, I wonder?

        Another neat thing is that you can drag quotes around within the editor as you wish. Just click on the handle in the upper-left of the quote box and drag around. (You will have to do so if you wish to add comments before the first quote when utilizing the multiquote feature). This will allow us to nest quotes manually. I've quoted my own post a few times here in order to showcase what I mean:

    On 3/6/2016 at 3:21 AM, Matoyak said:
    On 3/6/2016 at 3:21 AM, Matoyak said:

    Oh goodness me, look at this nesting! AND we have the context and linkback information too!

    Good golly gosh, ain't that something.

        So the answer to our conundrum at the moment is to use multiquote to grab every previous post in a chain, quote them all, then drag them inside of each quote ourselves. Not the most user-friendly way of handling things, but it's what we've got at the moment.

    * Here's an example of a post where Someone else is using multiquote, and them I'm quoting them and additionally using multiquote. Someone else then goes on to quote my post. It becomes a nightmare of clicking around, trying to figure out what each part of a previous quote is referring to.

    On 3/6/2016 at 3:21 AM, Matoyak said:

    Speaking of quoting, there's some wacky stuff going on with this at the moment as well. In the forum you have three options to quote people: The first I do not recommend if possible, and that is to click the " (quote) button in the WYSIWYG editor. It will drop a quote box into the forum like so:

    Quote

    I do be a quote! I have no name, timestamp, or linkback information though, which makes me hard to keep context around. :(

        The reason I do not recommend using this is within the quote. It doesn't create any information that helps give context to the quote, such as who said it, when they said it, etc. It also does not link back to the original post like the other methods do. You should only really use this method if you are quoting someone outside of the forums, such as Dan Shive or Shigeru Miyamoto or Frank Sinatra or someone.

        By default the forum currently is only showing one level of nesting when quoting another post. This is problematic, as I will demonstrate later. First let's clarify what I mean by "nesting" anyways (most users will know what this means, but eh, might as well play it safe).

    Quote
    Quote

    I am a nested quote!

    I am a quote. Neither of us have names, times, or linkback info though, still. We are sad about this.

        The other options for quoting are to hit the quote button on a post, or to hit the "+" button, which will create a list of all the posts you click this plus on while reading a particular forum thread. (It could possibly work across multiple threads, but I haven't tried that out just yet. I'll do so in a bit and edit this post with the results). The benefits of doing it this way is that it captures the context of the original post. I will create a second post to further discuss quotes immediately after this one, in order to better demonstrate the issues the forum has with quotes, and the nifty things it can do with them as well.

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