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The "oblivious wand waving" series involved retroactively changing the universe - which implies time travel. (As just one example of the retroactive changes, Tedd waved a wand and became Tess, and all Tedd's friends (as well as Tess herself) were unaware that anything had changed - Tess had always been Tess.) Time travel is one of the few things that are known to be impossible even with magic. Therefore, the series is non-canon for ANY canonical universe. Technically it's not time travel but it would be forbidden by the same rule which forbids time travel in EGS universe because it's causality violation. Hmmmm ... no, that can't work. Every use would need to interchange very complex part of universe. Of course, it COULD've been explained by MULTIPLE universes, but ... the explanation would be that the wand doesn't actually change anything except what universe is currently shown on page. (Which, frankly, is more solid explanation that those retroactive changes, as those retroactive changes would need to be quite complex to change universe just the correct way.)

So it's not "Dan forgot to draw shadow". Ok. I don't see anywhere on that page mentioning the hack, but I was on discord when it was discovered, there was mention of updating the wiki though. You mean "a security hole that allowed remote editing of the site without any credentials" doesn't sound sort of like a hack to you? You knowledge about computer security is either really bad or really good

"Was trying" implies that Tess gave up. "But I think I'll stick with being girly" fits more with someone who was curious about what it would be like, and then after trying, decided it wasn't their thing. I repeat that my read of why she decided to stop was that she was not satisfied with being not-so-manly man. Reading Tess' description there, Tess didn't experience the gender confusion that Tedd did, Tess was born female and despite being androgynous looking, the fact that she dressed female didn't get any reactions from anyone. Also the transformation interest Tess has seems to be related to size changes rather than gender change "Tess often wonders what it would be like to be bigger". She may find other types of transformation interesting too, but if an Immortal were to mark her, she'd be more likely to get Rhoda's size changing spell rather than Tedd's gender changing spell. Hmmm ... true. In this case, Occam's razor is on your side and says it's more likely she has other kind of transformations on top of her list. That said, she probably WOULDN'T get Rhoda's size changing spell ; instead, she would get some general camouflage spell with minor size change (not breaking square-cube law, not sweet, not over limits of TF gun) being one of options. Would "male" be another option? Based on what we know, probably not. It definitely wouldn't be PERMANENT.

Sorry for double post but found more info. So, let's talk about AF4 Tess. She has as much interest in transformation as Tedd does, though she lacks the means to do much more than fantasize. ... sounds like she MIGHT be genderfluid, considering this was written before Dan known what genderfluid is ...

Either way, that Tess isn't the AF04 Tess, sooo... ... yeah, I apparently mixed them up. The wand is apparently doing retroactive changes - instead of changing something now, it makes it always changed (or at least changes everyone's memories as if that would be true). Auryn from Neverending story was also capable of that. So, she WAS born female and WAS trying to turn into male.

Sarah might only know about that one time and assume Tess was interested in it enough to keep playing with it. Remember Tedd's opinion of the 4 breasted morph? she tried it once and decided it wasn't as sexy as she thought it would be, if someone had known about that one time then "Hey Tedd, figure out how to make having 4 breasts sexy yet?" could very well be a question that gets asked. And it would be good question Yes, it COULD be explained in way which doesn't require Tess trying multiple times, but Occam's razor says it's more likely she tried multiple times - until we get more informations at least.

I looked at today's comic last night, and then this morning the most recent comic was last Friday's. The Monday and Wednesday comic were simply not available, even by direct links. Same for EGS:NP. My guess: whoever manages the server found cause to do a file restore from a weekend backup. So some abnormal re-posting had to happen. Apparently, whole CMX missed EGS was sort of hacked.

"Last time I tried that" could also refer to the only time she tried, it's confusing but it happens, I'm guilty of it. With emphasis on "last"? Also, "new and exciting ways" ...

Terra could have been born female, be genderfluid and simply decide she didn't need to change to do what she wanted and be what she wanted. If temporary gender changes are option in Magus world (which we don't know about ; maybe they have just permanent changes) genderfluid person would DEFINITELY use those. Also, her go-to argument for any discussion about males being stronger would be "whatever ... I'll change for the exams". Why would anyone of one gender want to turn into the opposite gender? Especially if they had contorl and knew it would be temporary? Baseball? "The last time I tried that" suggest she already have MORE than two tries behind herself, AND the "I'll stick with being girly" suggest more like "it doesn't work, I'll give up" than "I have no interest trying it". In my opinion, Tess was trying to turn into manly boy, but failed. She MIGHT be doing it just for fun ... but that's exactly what OUR TEDD was claiming ... so she might be genderfluid and just in denial. Although probably not as much genderfluid as our Tedd, who's close to 50/50. Aside from the long hair there, there isn't anything else about Lord Tedd that suggests attempts to look feminine, he's pretty androgynous though which is why I said more info is needed. Long hair and ... like ... meekness? It's not proof, but it IS suggestion. ... oh. I might've mixed those two Tess's together.

Definitely. In fact, he MIGHT've tried to wake her just to warn her to prepare and not actually ask. We can only hope. I would consider this at least as likely as "wake her up". In many cartoons, comics, etc. "oof" is a sound a person makes when they suffer an impact. I've always interpreted it as a meaningless involuntary exclamation, not a curse. (In a case like this where the character's chest was likely hit, it could simply be the sound of air being forced out of their body.) Or "sound of air being forced out of you while you attempt to say something so your vocal cords are 'on'". Now that I've actually read the commentary, Dan does say "...As such, there's hints of Elliot's default female form...." I forget what FV2 and 3 are but one of those might fit the result. (IIRC, FV4 is essentially FV5 without some bells and whistles) I though we were shown the other FV variants but not sure where ... Ground, not floor. Elliot knocked Magus out the window and then flew after him. They're both outside now, probably in the parking lot. Or more like ABOVE the parking lot. Well, Elliot is certainly floating, so maybe they both are. In that case the background in panels five and six should probably have clouds or trees make it clear. (That also would have been a simple and clear way to denote the change in location right away.) ... if Magus is not flying, he was quick to stand after panel 5.

The fact that Lord Tedd's closest friends are General Shade-Tail and Nioi suggest genderfluid to me. This page does suggest genderfluid to me ... He could be genderfluid. He was acting pretty much like EGS-Tedd. He just had an active sex life. I don't think he has more active sex life than our Tedd now Tess seems to have enough screen time to establish her as a girly-girl. She would be the alternate-Tedd that's least likely to be genderfluid. Then why she was looking for ways to turn herself into a boy? The only thing we're sure of is that Lord Tedd doesn't have an Elliot for a friend, can only speculate that he either did and Elliot died, or they just never met. Or Elliot/Ellen might've died before they met ... lot of options.

Unaffected by her own over-self-control Susan could well join in more... ... maybe police ? Although if that's real police outfit and not some generic pretend uniform, it could be against the law to wear that outside.

The dialog doesn't really match that, but maybe Elliot will explain better on next page. Wouldn't really be good idea either. Even if Ellen CAN be woken, she would probably have serious headache and generally wouldn't be in good enough state to make so important decisions.

Not recently, but I suspect Sarah was the problematic one on start ... Also, debug mode ... ... actually with Hanma not able to test the spells herself, I'm surprised she is not begging them to test some stuff she's not sure about. Debug mode wand would be very useful for that. ... aaaand the card Susan wants is one we didn't actually saw in play (we saw how it looks, but didn't saw the effect). Of course, it's still something Susan wouldn't want complete, the list of cards Susan wouldn't mind would be very short

Didn't expected this. Elliot was already thinking if he should or shouldn't accept Magus arguments ... but then he realized Magus doesn't want to continue debate, immediately forget that and went to defend Ellen. In hindsight it DOES make some sense ... and, like, support the idea that Elliot is NOT able to counterargument consistently on this short notice. Also, not sure why Elliot didn't changed to "standard" cheerleadra ...

Remember, at the time they did not have any options for permanently turning anyone into the other gender save the rather drastic one that would make the target permanently female. Also, then and now, Ellen's principal motivation was to not just be a copy of Elliot. Moreover, Ellen has never experienced gender dysphoria; she has said as much and she has studied the matter. Whether this is because she fully identifies as female or she like the current Elliot is 'gender-meh', we cannot say, of course. Magus is operating from the assumption that Ellen is like Magus' own case, which is a tall assumption. He is also assuming that none of Ellen's friends would have noticed or cared if she had experienced gender dysphoria, which is more than a little insulting -- they would at the very least eventually notice that she was unhappy, which in fact Nanase did. I suspect that ur-ellen is supposed to mean Magus.

No, but I don't think Elliot would have become a perfect angel by the time he reached 4th grade if there was any need for that kind of parenting. I would consider it more likely than to turn someone to angel between 4th grade and junior school. It's much better than nothing. It may not be useful now, but there was serious lack of alternatives thousand years ago.

Considering when Elliot met Tedd, it stands to reason that Elliot was always like that, hence Edwards comment that Elliot must have been born wearing a boy scout uniform. Elliot met Tedd in fourth grade and Edward might not really know him before that. What, you think there is no opportunity to parenting before 4th grade?

I think Elliot's fine unless magus pushes the issue. Better still is something that builds down the confrontation. "It's ellen's choice.. You'd want that choice in her place. You wouldn't want even the right thing done TO you without your consent or control." Magus will push. ... and I'm not entirely sure this will build down the confrontation, no matter how good point it is. To clarify: "Ellen should choose" is not surprising. Magus might already think about such argument and be ready to it. Elliot turning to Cheerleadra can surprise Magus and make him rethink everything from start. I think Magus would expect her to attack and not really listen to what she's saying. NOOOO, let them fight, that will hurt less.

They have a clue, but I think they ultimately believe that Elliot, and Ellen are capable of making their own mistakes without having to drill it into them. I think they were doing more effective parenting when Elliot was younger. Possibly they made Elliot the boy scout he's now ... or, at least, were ready to do something if he wouldn't be naturally so. But at this age, if you made some mistake in parenting it's usually too late to fix it anyway. I think Nanase might have a problem with it as well and not just Ellen going to another school. Definitely. And, well ... I would say that even if Ellen decided to stay woman just for Nanase, I would believe it would be worth it for her. I think Elliot's fine unless magus pushes the issue. Better still is something that builds down the confrontation. "It's ellen's choice.. You'd want that choice in her place. You wouldn't want even the right thing done TO you without your consent or control." Magus will push. ... and I'm not entirely sure this will build down the confrontation, no matter how good point it is.

This. So much this. This definitely needs to be said, if for nothing else to make Magus say why he's in rush. However, it would be better if it wouldn't be only argument. Elliot turning to cheerleadra and saying that he doesn't mind being woman now could be more effective in making Magus doubt his decision ...

So Magus wants to go away NOW. Where? Back to his own universe that needs him so desperately? He can do that? Well, he got to the Moperverse, only that wasn't exactly his idea, was it? His plan is to "fix" Ellen and then split? Well, that does sound like Nioi after the nose beep. We don't know where (or WHY) yet, but he obviously is in hurry and Dan hinted that in commentary as well. I'm not sure I would risk it without manual. There are also less useful and more dangerous red shoes which could easily be mistaken for those ... especially considering the ruby slippers were originally silver.

He might've been right for first week, maybe even until the second life. People change and Ellen did a LOT of changing. This should be the ultimate argument. Sure, Elliot were willing to travel a hundred miles to became male faster ... on the other hand, he was too lazy to spend night outside city to get rid of energy buildups few months later. ... yes. Well, Tedd can fix a physical transformation - but (assuming Magus actually uses a permanent-sex-change spell) since Elliot and Ellen don't know about Tedd's wand, until they have a chance to talk with her they'll think Ellen is stuck with her base form being male. That could be somewhat traumatic for her, particularly considering how being female is part of the foundation of the life she spent so much effort building for herself; even if she consoles herself with the fact that she has access to a number of ways of changing back to her original form temporarily, it'll be the cause for some introspection. Yes. And Elliot definitely couldn't point out the wands existence to Magus because he doesn't know about it. The problem is that Magus plans to leave the facility in different direction than Ellen. He doesn't want to escape with them and later go away, he plans to go away NOW.

Must've been hard for Susan to admit it like this.

I think her nightmares prior to Painted Black hinted at that form being a thing. and Nioi even commented about Grace's lespuko side no longer being dormant. That only proves that Lespuko is part of that form, not that it doesn't have Jeremy as well ...