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Honestly, I'm not sure anyone does. Trying to "correct" it by force very, very rarely ends well and may as well be considered brainwashing. One would think that if the cause was known, better methods would have been developed. As it is though, trying to "fix" the mind to match the body is a backwards way of dealing with it, it'd be less stressful and easier in the long run, to fix the body to match the mind.

I can't remember. That would explain why there were no questions raised whenever Nanase used her magic in the store.

The hugest difference between Elliot and Tedd, and I even ran this past a friend who's trans to make sure, is the dysphoria. Elliot doesn't feel any regardless of what form he's in, but Tedd does. When Tedd's male, there will be a point where he feels the need to be female, and while female, she'll eventually feel the need to be male again. The need to be female might arise more often, but it's not constant or else Tedd would be trans female instead of genderfluid. That's why I don't feel like genderfluid, or even gender-meh is appropriate in describing Elliot, and I don't believe CIS applies here either, Elliot's probably something that all CIS gender people should be though.

I wouldn't say dug a bigger hole. As I said in the previous thread, Elliot's ability to adjust to this was always part of his nature, it sounds like he was worried that Ellen knowing he likes changing to female might devalue her situation? At least initially it might have, like "I can do this, but Ellen can't, it's not fair!" but more recently it might have extended to Tedd, realizing Tedd's been suffering disphoria for a long time might have made Elliot feel he was given something that Tedd needs more. And there's the thought of losing that ability making Elliot feel like he was just told several limbs need to be amputated. Basically, Elliot's struggle with this seems to be "Is it wrong to like something that I don't need?"

Never saw it. Come to think of it, I can only really recall the Dead Alewives D&D sketch, but only because it's been immortalized in 8bit theater.

Well, Damien didn't know that Mr Guyur was the one that made the eggs used to create Grace and her brothers, but I wouldn't doubt that Dr Sciuridae was the one the told Damien how Grace and her brothers were created, it would certain have been under threat of death or harm to Grace. It's possible Damien learned about Dr. Sciuridae from Hedge or Vlad, also under threat of harm to them and Grace, and Guineas of course, but I don't think Damien could understand snorts and squeaks. There was absolutely no guarantee of Ellen zapping Elliot in that instance without influence. She intended to zap Tedd so she zapped Tedd. Maybe Magus hoped that Ellen would zap Elliot while they were still in the almostnonexistantsecurity facility, but Ellen ended up taking off instead. I dunno, that feels like leaving things up to chance as well which isn't a very good plan. The main reason why the attempt on Grace's birthday failed, was because Magus underestimated the fact that Ellen had resolved to not zap Elliot and resisted the amplification enough to direct the beam elsewhere. The best chance for an attempt with amplification would have been earlier on. Magus had been stuck in limbo for 2 years prior to Grace's birthday...If the creation of Ellen wasn't the first attempt, but the setup for the second attempt, then the actually first attempt would have taken place before the start of the comic. The only other time we know of where Helena and Demetrius had any influence was the France trip. and the France trip was after Magus appeared in Limbo and Pandora was apparently there offering help right from the start, what if the vampire in France was an attempt to lure Helena and Demetrius away from Elliot, just like vampires are being used to do so now. Only issue is there isn't evidence that Elliot experienced anything to suggest that an attempt had been made, the only other event that was similar to Elliot being zapped was when Tedd accidentally zapped Sarah, both instances had the TFG conveniently malfunction after zapping, but Elliot was apparently not present for the incident. Also, the incident was just a few months before the comic started so quite a bit after France so the only way it would work is if Helena and Demetrius were not lured to France as a distraction, but to make them do something that forced a reset on them, Magus would have had some time to act before Les Immortals new lives started. So the question is...What happened to make it a failed attempt?

I don't think I'd want an "Earnest does Roleplay" movie though...

Elliot even said "I was energetic and impulsive and knew what to say to people" that was the form's personality doing the heavy lifting for him, he doesn't have that with the standard morphs. I think Date at the Mall is one of the reasons Elliot's going to miss having magic. He's found someone he can have fun transforming with and while I'm sure Ashley won't change how she feels about him if he lost the ability, he'd still miss it. How would you feel if someone were to see you doing things and go "Oh that's just Vorlonagent being Vorlonagent." Elliot did use the "He's Tedd" excuse, but he had a good reason to do so, in any other context, it would be a hurtful comment even if Elliot didn't intend on it and Tedd initially did take offense to it until Elliot explained why. That was probably the last time Elliot said something like that to Tedd, and we know for a fact that Tedd was still worrying about how Elliot felt until just a couple day's ago (comic time). I'm not going to argue that Elliot wouldn't notice something. I'm just saying that how Elliot handles it would likely be different. "Don't knock it till you try it." Edward remembers seeing a concept drawing of what Shade Tail was supposed to be. He like knew about Dr. Sciuridae's daughter Grace dying in a car accident from background checks of personnel before his mission, I mean Sarah was able to find out by searching obituaries so it wouldn't have been difficult. What Edward might not have known initially was that Dr Sciuridae used his daughter's blood in the Shade Tail project, and he wouldn't have known about about the Lespuko part. Half-squirrel Grace not being able to get pregnant might have been rule of funny at work, I mean just look at the reaction it got. I don't think it would have saved her, Damien would not be happy, but he'd have no problem with resorting to using rape with Grace, remember he was willing to use any female Hedge could bring back if Hedge couldn't find Grace. I don't think playing along with Damien's belief would have worked in the long run either, I don't think it would work as a stalling tactic, Damien would have demanded Grace make an egg and if she failed, then... Ok, so it wasn't Helena and Demetrius, but something didn't go as planned. Pandora stated "twice bid for freedom, twice failed", if Ellen's creation was only the setup, and the only failed attempt we saw was on Grace's Birthday, then what was the other attempt?

They do have homosexual and/or bisexual attraction as well, are you 100% convinced that Heidi kissing Carol was not driven by the Party Girl personality? The new spell isn't tied to female forms at all, which means m!Elliot can use it, as well as cat!Elliot, along with the female forms/Cheerleadra, this is Elliot's first non gender spell since awakening. It's the feeling of anonymity that being in another form would give Elliot, it wouldn't matter if he was in a male form or female form, being unrecognizable would make him feel more adventurous, of course what Elliot does with that anonymity would be different for each case but it would still happen. Elliot dreamed of being a superhero for a long time before he could actually be one, once Elliot found out he could fly, he didn't care about the fact that he was female. I can still see Elliot saying "Dude, I can fly" and being all giddy about it if he was "Super Elliot" instead of Cheerleadra. But remember Elliot's initial reaction to seeing Tedd as a female, if Elliot didn't go through the experience of being female as well, he may have continued to think that way, and it's bad enough that Edward's covering that field. I was basing the though process on Elliot going through with the whole diamond stuff, but not having his magic get messed up and therefore awakening with male transformation spells. Yes Elliot would still have the initial female form that allowed him to escape the ropes, but he was still at a stage where if given the option of male or female, there's a higher chance he'd have chosen male, even after he learned about the cheerleadra form he was all "there's got to be a way to get male related spells". That could also be Elliot having gotten used to the routine, it'd be like getting a new mattress, it takes a few nights to get used to it because your body had grown accustom to the old one. And then once you've gotten used to the new one, you go out of town for a couple days and need to spend a night at a hotel or friend's place and it feels weird because it's not what you've become used to. It's also possible that what Edward knew about that was part of the "version of the story told to people who aren't in the need to know." Dr Sciuridae didn't make any attempt to disprove this either, maybe out of fear, but for now this files under "inconclusive: more data required". 1)There was the base male (v1) form that the gun came with, plus there would have been William's Human form, then Grace's, Susan's, Nanase's and Sarah's forms for Grace's birthday party, and then lastly the male forms designed in MV5 were going to have a zappable version and a watch version. Tedd just never had a desire to design extra male forms for himself. 2)True, he wouldn't have to worry about buying new clothes (unless he was too big or too small for his regular clothes), but he'd still have to deal with explaining the whole thing to his principle, that likely wouldn't turn out the same, I think he might still opt to return to normal as quick as possible. 3)Well, I dunno if the intention was to have Elliot end up with confused magic giving him female based spells. I think Ellen's creation was the first failed attempt at Magus getting a physical body and that Ellen should have been Magus at the beginning, one can assume that Helena and Demetrius foiled that attempt but who knows. This may have been the point where Elliot started really enjoying the forms, well seeing what the goth form looked like may have helped as well. I don't think being a girl once or twice would be enough, having to change repeated for months certainly would, there's probably a specific point in time somewhere in there, but that probably varies depending on who you ask. Grace's birthday party would have been the 4th time I believe, 1st from original zap, 2nd to escape ropes, 3rd to show Ellen and Nanase, 4th Party. And then it was only a couple days after the party when the buildups kicked in.

There's also George. Granted George is observant enough that he wouldn't need the assistance of security cameras, but that would still make him a good candidate for handling security at the shop.

It's been a while since someone posted in here, I actually had to double check the rules on necroposting to make sure it was ok (It's part of the JML exception). I really felt the need to share this because I know some of you like to go, or would like to go, to conventions or other large fan events and I want to make sure you're aware and to be careful. Yes, the artist in question apparently found out the painful way, this is messed up stuff. Again, be careful...

That's why I specifically talked about Elliot's standard morphs, I consider the secret ID forms as being in the same category as the TFG, the secret ID's alters Elliot's personality to allow him to act naturally so that people don't supect anything, granted the TFG doesn't go that far, but it still alters enough to make it easier to deal with physical attraction. It may not have had the same effect, but it would have had an effect one way or another, I don't believe for a second that he'd still be a stick in the mud. As I said, the female forms gave Elliot a different perspective, having the ability to switch from male to female would have given him an understanding of why Tedd does it, Elliot could put himself in Tedd's shoes faster than he probably would have if he only had male morphs.

I don't believe that Grace's birthday party should be used as an example. f!Elliot's attraction to m!Sarah was due to the TFG adjusting their preferences to make them bisexual. There's been no indication that Elliot's standard morphs have that effect, f!Elliot may as well be lesbian while in female form and we have Ellen as evidence of it, the TFG tacked on the bisexual aspect of her, but her attraction to females is from Elliot, and she considers it a part that she doesn't want to change. I'm imagining how Elliot might have turned out if he awakened with male transformations instead of female transformations and I don't really see there being much difference at it's base. Being able to look like something else would have an effect on how you behave, if Elliot's first transformation at school resulted in a cross between Justin and Tedd, he likely would have still felt liberated by the knowledge of no one recognizing him. That said I think the female transformations have provided Elliot with a new perspective on not just females, I'm not sure if Elliot would have received that message asking for help if Elliot only had male transformations, and maybe he wouldn't have had proper insight into what Tedd's been going through.

I'd be surprised if it doesn't end with Grace realizing that there's a security camera.

Ayyyy Macarena!

True, but then they're not holding themselves to the values that; They must learn to protect their investment. Of course I'm willing to be lenient on a case to case basis, maybe there was something beyond the player's control. Maybe I should start an insurance company for tabletop gamers....

You NEED those caltrops disguised as game accessories. You need EVERY ONE that you can find. Platonic. Irregular. Custom. Weighted. Invisible. I don't care if the rule book only uses the d6 and no one asked for anything else, you MUST have that Sanskrit d47 for your next game. Every die is sacred Every die is great... I would also suspect that it'd be inaccurate to assume one would save by buying individual dice. If you buy one or two and never buy any others, sure. But if you buy every dice individually, you are more likely to pay more than if you buy them by the set. That's where stores get you, they incentivize buying bulk, but many people feel that buying that much might not be worth it if they only plan on using a fraction of it. You can either buy a set of 10 dice for $6 ($0.60 per dice), or buy 3 dice for for $0.75 each. For the hardcore gamer, buying the whole set would be a no brainer, and they'd save money. For the casual gamer, buying a couple dice would save money as well, if they remained casual. I suspect Duck, Bill and Drake are leaning towards the hardcore gamer side, but are limited by their allowance, so they're going to end up spending $7.75 to eventually get all the dice from that set individually. It also occurs to me that they possibly already have those dice, in which case it's now become gambling.

Elliot also lapsed in the ability to walk while in Mall Girl form so I'm pretty certain the TFG isn't the only thing that has compensation in that matter. It's possible that Elliot's forms also removes dysphoria, which lead to him to wanting to continue using them, but I think that's just the way Elliot is. We can speculate whether he's gender-fluid or gender-meh, gender-neutral is probably the closest we have, but I'm still not sure of that's really accurate. It's like Elliot is the perfect balance of masculine and feminine, he doesn't feel one or the other, but both, at the same time, which allows him to seamlessly move between them. His initial reaction to being female might have been genuine fear of the unknown, but it'd be similar to someone who had never been on a thrill ride at an amusement park before or eaten exotic foods. There was the "OMG What am I doing like this." initially, but then it became "this is actually pretty good." Of course Elliot suffered from "thou protesteth too much" syndrome in that he was reluctant to admit that he liked the spells he got, I think Ellen had suspected this for a long time which makes the "Not even when I was you" comment make sense. I think if Elliot would suffer from any dysphoria, it'd be if he loses the ability to transform, but it'd be more like he just lost an arm and leg and forcing him to never be able to go on that thrill ride again, there will be phantom pains from the missing parts. Fortunately having Tedd as a friend is probably the equivalent to knowing a really good prosthetics engineer.

Yeah, I used the NHL as being mainly Canadian, but for Baseball, The Toronto Bluejays may be the only MLB team in Canada, but of the 40 players on the team, 2 are Canucks. Don't get me wrong, rooting for a team based on team pride is fine, and national pride is fine for the Olympics or World Cup (though World Series is somewhat misleading). But national pride in a "We're #1!" sense for a mixed nation roster seems silly. If the Blue Jays ever won the World Series again, I can be proud that Toronto was able to do it, I can be proud of the 2 Canucks for being a part of it, but the US can also be proud of the American players that are on the team, same with the Dominican Republic, and Cuba, and Mexico, and Venezuela.

Yeah, I've heard of airlines and similar offering free upgrades which is great, even buying back the ticket at full cost or even more than full cost is good too, but if a flight already has all seats full, then there's not much you can do about it. I understand the reason for overbooking, it's so that they can guarantee a full plane in the event someone cancels or is a no show, but the handling of "what happens if a plane is already full and an employee or VIP shows up wanting to get on?" still needs a lot of work.

This isn't intended as anything political, but it amuses me to no end how Americans are so passionate about sports teams in American cities who's player base majority is from other countries. I have heard Americans say "We have the best hockey teams!" ...but a third to half the players are Canadian, another quarter to a third are from other countries.... "That's because you can't afford to keep them in Canada." O.o

I'm pretty certain my mom downplayed it a bit when she told me. For all I know, United wasn't the only incident of bumping of paid passengers turning violent.

My wife would probably be standing nearby if she had the chance. I would have like to see my Great Grandpa tell off the ticketmaster, or whoever handled boarding, after being told they were getting bumped from 2nd class to 3rd class because of overbooking. I've been told it was a very Scotish variation of "screw this, we're taking another boat."

Who knows, Dan might throw in another time skip or two to advance the timeline and give him leeway to include new stuff. Like the 6 month timeskip could have allowed Skyrim to be included, especially if we went with my example of EGS taking place in 2011-2012, we'd just have to accept the fact the days in EGS don't line up with our timeline. Not saying he actually planned it that way, but that would be a way to go if he wanted to restrict how he includes more recent topics.

I won't argue with that. Maybe I'm just of the opinion that "If you really care about someone enough, you'd do anything to ensure their happiness" and maybe that's too idealistic, but I can't help it, I want people to be happy.