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Certainly not abstract reasoning. But their thinking would be finely honed for quick situation assessment, problem solving and lateral thinking.
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Most special-forces types tend to be at the very least bright and definitely cagey and resourceful. You may be underestimating both Rambo and Special Forces soldiers.
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Agreed. The conflicts serve to bring things out in the characters. they are means not ends.
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I blame the murals or if Moperville South has no murals the lack of murals. General Shade-Tail would be the Big Boss among the bad guys we know about.
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OK. I was wrong. Early magic buildup event. Very good point. I think to myself "is Sirleck good at hiding the way Immortals can hide on the spirit plane?" and I answer "No. Magus found him effortlessly." I'll agree then. Collateral damage to a human on the material plane would be one of the few things that would stop Immortals from wadding Sirleck up into a ball and disintegrating him.
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Except Elliot didn't have "turn into a cat" spell and still doesn't as far as we know. If he went through a buildup-driven change, he would have girlified.
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I choose to treat Ed Verres as an authority on magic and magical stuff. Perhaps better, he is the spokesman for the accrued knowledge of the supernatural community. There may be holes in his knowledge but what he does tell us ought be true, perhaps with a rare unexpected exception, but is basically true. If Verres tells us Vampires can't be cured, then I would accept that as the dominant opinion of earth's magical community at the very least. It is true in all but the most exceptional cases. Verres tells us Vampires are literally incapable of remorse so I take that as what to expect from them. I tend to doubt Sirleck is an exception to that particular bit of Verres-knowledge. His comments to himself about "letting your heart bleed" tend to support the idea that he is without empathy as well, just as Verres said to Grace.
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Vampires are human enough that Immortal law forbids messing with them... That's an excellent point. Having been human once, it's possible Sirleck could look human again. Is his base form still human I wonder...? I'd tend to think not, but it's possible that being a Vampire is something like an enchantment that is maintained in life energy or something like that.
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It's possible Sirleck has history with the rich old man, but I don't personally see it. He looks to just have been a convenience for Sirleck. As a Vampire Sirleck should NOT not be capable of repentance. Humanized, well, There are people who don't seem capable of it either...
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If Sirleck could be hurt on the spirit plane he's probably be long gone. I think Magus could be hurt because he didn't classify as "human". Remember, Immortal law only triggers if the Immortal *thinks* they're breaking it. If they don't think they're breaking the Law by tormenting Magus, they aren't. Bit of a loophole, really,. Pandora implied it herself speaking to Sarah. It seemed to me that Ellen was the best known option for humanizing Sirleck, which would probably annoy him if he survived...
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An Immortal personally destroying a Vampire is definitely against Immortal law so Pandora couldn't directly touch him without getting reset. We just saw what happened when fear of reset ceased to restrain Pandora. but Pandora goes for style points too. I think she'd like to see Sirleck made a victim of his own cleverness or otherwise defeated in a trickster way than a power vs. power confrontation and this is why she pointed Magus toward him. I don't know what she might have set up, but there ought to be something.
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I'll admit I forgot about that part...
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I'd add there should be one or more plot reasons for Ellen to be there (and do what she just did). She could find out that she was created in order to set up Magus' rebirth (and probably get very mad about that), she could be there to throw some light on the odd things she can do that crop up, or something else entirely. Dan could have kept Sirleck in/on the custodian's body if he just needed Sirleck to have a human vehicle to drive out to the Dewitchery Diamond with.
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I didn't get the impression it was a question of "evilness". Ed Verres says that Vampires give up "humanity and compassion" (or something like that) to become what they are. It's the "giving up humanity" art that I find myself focusing on. Granted. hence my using "impossible" with the quotes. I don't however think anybody knew how Ellen achieved the transformation that she did. The answer we got seemed more an educated guess to me. Except Tedd's experience with Magic suggests it doesn't have a flair for the dramatic... And Ellen seems to be as bad about keeping up on her spellbook as Elliot is. I would really hate to see how a spellbook's overly verbose style would phrase all the stuff Dan put in EGS: NP about Ellen. We don't know how much magic Sirleck knows. He ought to be an Awakened magic user of some kind just to be able to Vampirized himself.
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One thing that occurred to me came from asking myself what would happen if Ellen threw Sirleck off her and hit Sirleck with a super-amped up FV5 along the lines of what she did to Vlad/Vladia. Would it transform him/her/it? If it did, would that kill Sirleck or find a loophole in what Ed Verres told Grace (you can't cure/humanize a Vampire without killing them). I take Verres at his word as an expert on magic, but Ellen has done several things she shouldn't be able to do. When Ellen transformed Vlad into Vladia the comic made a big deal of the fact that Vladia's face antennae were gone. That shouldn't have happened and was chalked up to Ellen putting extra energy into her FV5 beam. Ellen copied Nanase's Guardian form. Dan's expose on Ellen's spells specifically tells us she shouldn't have been able to do that though there might have been a Deity involved. Ellen just mentally arm-barred Sirleck. Clearly Sirleck did not expect Ellen's mind to be able to assert itself. We don't know why Ellen is capable of doing "impossible" things. The only known variable we have is the fact that she was created by the Dewitchery Diamond (RIP), which suggests Ellen might have an aspect to her existence we haven't taken into account, but doesn't explain what it might be or how it works beyond Ellen getting over her early energy buildup problems quicker than Elliot.
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Got a "last Unicorn vibe" from watching the video, never a bad thing. It's raining so I drove my car to work listening to Jimmy Buffet's "Last Mango In Paris:"
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I imagine Susan's "Chest of Interesting things I can summon" is starting to look like a toybox with all those fairydolls in it...
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Abraham in in a weird good news/bad news situation....
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and we fight in the shade.
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That's the sort of thing that would come out in playtest...
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Both squirrel and kid are forms, right? Wouldn't one cancel or replace the other?
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Generally Agreed. I would add 4: Magus is altering the normal process of the Dewitchery "Diamond". All bets are off from the get-go. We don't know how much of the Diamond's normal functioning Magus is changing. Enough to make it explode suggests a fair amount. KISS Principle means Magus is not going to care if he gives his spells to Elliot or if he gets Elliot's spells. He wants his body back. I would guess the rest is negotiable. Magus might not even get any ability to "pass on the curse" (this assumes that Magus is coming out as the "permanently cursed duplicate" which may not be accurate, but if we consider the last time Elliot touched the diamond, Magus would be the cursed duplicate. What "pass on the curse" ability would Magus even get? The ability to turn people into permanent spirit-realm shadows? Fuse people with their dimensional doppelgangers? Fuse people with Elliot? Magus claims to be a wizard. If he's a Wizard by EGS Prime standards, he will probably get Elliot's spells. If Elliot has a buried Wizard affinity or picks it up from having been fused with Magus, he *could* get Magus' spell list, but I don't know what he gets just from exposure to the Jewel. He got Awakened last time, so if he has a buried Wizard Affinity, the diamond would likely bring that out. There's a wildcard that occurred to me. Magus was originally involved with both Pandora and Sirleck. And Pandora is a very intelligent, predictive thinker. Suppose she set Magus up with Sirleck and pretended not to care just to create this moment. We don't know what magical advice she gave to Magus. Perhaps she finessed her magical advice in order to finesse the results against Sirleck. Using Magus as a pawn against Sirleck seems a very "immortal" way of thinking.
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...and there was much rejoicing.
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