Sad news

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8 hours ago, ProfessorTomoe said:

Shelly Duvall dies at 75.

https://www.fox4news.com/news/shelley-duval-actress-dies

Aw. I remember her 'Shelly DuVall's Fairie Tale Theater', briefly a thing when my kids were just the right age. Quirky retellings with much imagination and wit, and an outstanding cast. I think HBO carried it, IIRC. Decades ago, and I have never seen them available again.

[ijuin 587]

People are already snapping up every copy of it on Amazon and ebay.

[mlooney 3,548]

RIP Dr Ruth https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ruth-westheimer-expert-everything-sex-150413081.html  I didn't even know she was still alive.

[ProfessorTomoe 1,324]

Richard Simmons is dead at 76.

https://www.fox4news.com/news/richard-simmons-dead

[ProfessorTomoe 1,324]

Bob Newhart is dead at 94.

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/bob-newhart-dead-comedian-1236077300/

[mlooney 3,548]

I was just coming it to post that.  Really sucks.

[Pharaoh RutinTutin 1,614]

 

Of all the series-ending episodes I have ever watced, the last episode of Newhart was the only one to make the whole series better.

 

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4 hours ago, Pharaoh RutinTutin said:

 

Of all the series-ending episodes I have ever watched, the last episode of Newhart was the only one to make the whole series better.

 

. . . and tie two series together.

[Darth Fluffy 332]

Phil Donahue passed away a week ago. I have not watched him in ages, but long ago I watched his show regularly. He was very liberal, not everyone's cup of tea. I was quite conservative at the time, still found him insightful. His widow is Marlo Thomas of That Girl.

[ChronosCat 156]

James Earl Jones died today. He was 93. I haven't heard the cause of death.

I knew him primarily as the voices of Darth Vader and Mufasa. It's amazing how he could so perfectly portray such different characters. It's strange to think he's no longer with us.

[Darth Fluffy 332]

I saw that. He will be missed.

[mlooney 3,548]

Not only was he a commissioned officer in the Army he got the Ranger tab, back when that was pretty much a all white boys club.

[ProfessorTomoe 1,324]

Pete Rose has died.

[Darth Fluffy 332]

Seem odd that Pete Rose just died. He cut his own throat years ago.

[mlooney 3,548]

10 minutes ago, Darth Fluffy said:

Seem odd that Pete Rose just died. He cut his own throat years ago.

Wonder if they will let him in the Hall of Fame, now that he's dead.

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4 minutes ago, mlooney said:

Wonder if they will let him in the Hall of Fame, now that he's dead.

I think they would have already, he was that good, if he hadn't doubled down on denial. Hard to make amends at this point.

Plus, he is mostly forgotten, except by us geriatric codgers.

[Pharaoh RutinTutin 1,614]

 

Gambling was at the heart of the crisis that caused Baseball to form the office of Commissioner in the first place. 

The Hall would not consider anyone under a ban.  And the commissioner's office would not lift the ban because some team would almost certainly offer him a position as a coach or manager.  If he was in such a position, it is believed he would use insider knowledge to bet on games he was coaching.  

Just like the 1919 White Sox, the Hall will probably never consider Rose despite his on field records. 

 

[Darth Fluffy 332]

I believe your assessment is correct. He would have been a coach, and he would have continued gambling.

[ijuin 587]

They can’t lift the ban posthumously in order to nominate him to the Hall of Fame?

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12 hours ago, ijuin said:

They can’t lift the ban posthumously in order to nominate him to the Hall of Fame?

I suppose they could, 'XYZ Hall of Fame' rules are fairly arbitrary, looking at exigent examples.

So, why not? Reasons that come to mind are "hurts our credibility", "not going to second guess past decisions", "lowers the bar for future violations", "creeping lax rules", "don't want to make a hero out of him" . . . "we'd have already done it if he'd faced the problem and got help" . . . also "he's old news", "no one remembers him", "no one cares any more", "the kids graduating this year have never heard of Pete Rose"

or perhaps "Yes, we are considering it"; bear in mind, he just recently passed away.

[ChronosCat 156]

Dame Maggie Smith died this past Friday. I haven't seen much of her work, but her portrayal of Professor McGonagall was really well done (in fact I suspect I like the character better because of her).

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She will be missed.