NP Comic for Thursday, May 15, 2025

[Darth Fluffy 363]

NP Comic for Thursday, May 15, 2025

They are not convincing as sisters.

[Pharaoh RutinTutin 1,640]

 

Now enters the princess who, by decree. Is the loveliest lady in the land. 

 

[mlooney 3,731]

Yes, but by various factors, starting with “ick, she's his sister” and ending with “dating that foreign princess” she's out of the running.  Of course, she is going to make the “meet other nobles in case the prince thing falls through” a bit tricky.

Also, I tend to forget that Ellen has training at singing via 2nd life.  Lots of fanfic make it clear that Elliot can't sing, even if the canon evidence is based on him being in female form at the time, which would affect singing.

[Amiable Dorsai 71]

9 hours ago, Darth Fluffy said:

They are not convincing as sisters.

They do say something about Mom.

[mlooney 3,731]

But they have the same father…  As she has said repeatably.

[Darth Fluffy 363]

42 minutes ago, mlooney said:

But they have the same father…  As she has said repeatably.

And she is entirely trustworthy. And does not mess around in her relationships.

 

2 hours ago, Amiable Dorsai said:

They do say something about Mom.

Which is what they might do if they were told from a young age they were hers . . .

 

Canonically, in EGS, Ashley is Asian. Sarah does not appear to be Asian at all. Aside from everything else, this seems to preclude actual sisterhood, or some further explanation is warranted. Likely, it isn't a real consideration, and we are expected to ignore this, but as far as it goes, I stand by "They are not convincing (to me) as sisters." Doesn't mean I'm right, just seems jarring.

[mlooney 3,731]

1 hour ago, Darth Fluffy said:

And she is entirely trustworthy.

Of course she is.  This is AU version of DGB agent.  What more do you want for trustworthiness?

[mlooney 3,731]

1 hour ago, Darth Fluffy said:

Canonically, in EGS, Ashley is Asian.

But from California.  And her family is not from Japan, which might as well mean not Asian… /s

[ijuin 603]

So China is not Asian?

[Amiable Dorsai 71]

2 hours ago, Darth Fluffy said:

Doesn't mean I'm right, just seems jarring.

"Jarring" seems to be the point. DS has seldom (never?) shown Bishop in a good light.

[Darth Fluffy 363]

1 hour ago, Amiable Dorsai said:

"Jarring" seems to be the point. DS has seldom (never?) shown Bishop in a good light.

Yeah; here entire backstory and current status seem to suggest she may be a capable agent in some sense, but appears to lack certain people skills and adherence to cultural norms. Which is more than can be said for some of today's leadership.

[mlooney 3,731]

2 hours ago, mlooney said:

But from California.  And her family is not from Japan, which might as well mean not Asian… /s

 

1 hour ago, ijuin said:

So China is not Asian?

/s normally means “sarcasm”

[Don Edwards 572]

Genetically, Ashley looks like an Asian/European mix. Such appearances can be deceiving, though.

Culturally she is definitely not Asian. Just look at her name, for starters. "Ashley" as a given name is extremely English - and relatively recent English at that, not getting going until after 1860. So her Asian genetics (if any) have apparently been passed through a few layers of culturally-Americanized ancestors.

In my headcanon her last name is "Lysande", which is Swedish. (Not "Lysander" which apparently is somewhat-Anglicized Italian.)

[Darth Fluffy 363]

1 hour ago, Don Edwards said:

Genetically, Ashley looks like an Asian/European mix. Such appearances can be deceiving, though.

Culturally she is definitely not Asian. Just look at her name, for starters. "Ashley" as a given name is extremely English - and relatively recent English at that, not getting going until after 1860. So her Asian genetics (if any) have apparently been passed through a few layers of culturally-Americanized ancestors.

In my headcanon her last name is "Lysande", which is Swedish. (Not "Lysander" which apparently is somewhat-Anglicized Italian.)

It is common for Chinese, at least, to adopt Western names for their tenure here, if they are on a green card extended visit. It seems likely that the generation born here would also be named Western names, at least many of them. I deal with name space for a large customer, and can vouch that this is true.

OTOH, Nanase is described as Japanese, but I believe her father has been shown to be a white guy, so Ashley being mixed is not far fetched for EGS. Tedd is also mixed race.