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Some may argue that despite us having technology, we lack intelligence to use it wisely. Definitely not true. We totally have enough intelligence to use it wisely ... sure, not on first try, but that's not due to lack of intelligence. If there are enough samples of the DNA left you could even use cloning and gene therapy to replenish the genetic diversity with the original genome. Though in Star Trek the issue was needing them now, not in the couple decades it would have taken to recreate the species using scrimshaw and other remains as a genetic basis for cloning It's possible genetic engineering was only forbidden to apply to human. Maybe we should ask someone who knows more about how totally forbidden genetic engineering is ... like Dr. Julian Bashir. Makes sense. Although I would expect the bird watchers would then intervene. Hmmmm ... isn't neutronium normally unstable in "normal" pressures? Well, perhaps it would be better if we let the experts from exotic matter industry compute if they need exotic matter or not. I wouldn't be so sure that warfare requires more than the machines expected to be used for terraformation ... but it's true that by using the elements for warfare would mean you won't have them for original purpose. They would probably want to steal resources from us, yes. So, first attack will likely be on something they can use to build more war technology. This reminds me the Uplift Universe again. In at least one instance, dolphins in supposedly unarmed ship needed to attack actual warship ... they used water. The idea being that water was probably not showing well on sensors but with the high relative velocity was still dangerous ...
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So, we still didn't get the answer to WHY androids dress that way. Unless the "it's cute" is supposed to be the answer. Also, wouldn't plaid be visible even in greyscale? Unless it's plaid but with colors specially chosen to translate to same grey ... Probably more than T-800. Hmmm ... would GR4-C3 be friends with 5C4RL37, V10L37, 4M83R and J4D3? Would they be jealous of that hyphen? Sooo, rainbow?
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No, we still have them all in OT14, and I would have said OT4, but Elliot has the "like a sister" thing with Sarah, so that would be "one big awkward moment", so we end up with 2 threesomes, that have to check their day planner as to who is to be where, when. Well, there was already issue with Elliot and Ellen not being "in it" at same time, so ... It might be first relationship having problem with one partner wanting the OTHER being more open HIMSELF ... I think having eight parents would be lot even for Uryuom (not record, sure, but lot over average) but I can totally see Grace not wanting anyone to feel excluded, yes ... I think that while using syringe is possible, it's not SUPPOSED to be done that way. But, maybe someone would consider it less awkward ... (Also, while it may not be SUPPOSED to be done that way for Uryuoms it may be preferred option for humans.) There is also question about time window. It's possible you can keep adding DNA for whole hour or even more, which would allow less awkward options even if nakedness would be required. ... right. She wouldn't hear the first comment there but even this might be enough for her to guess correctly. Note that while only her short-term memory is perfect, even her normal memory might be better.
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... apparently, I didn't payed attention, as I certainly watched several seasons of StarGate but didn't realized this. I though Naquadah is just hard to obtain. No. We discover small amount enough for TWO expeditions - and we would still be unaware that it's relatively common. Two expeditions will depart in different directions (I would say opposite but 60° makes more sense - or perhaps opposite in circle sense, one clockwise and other counter-clockwise) hoping that at least one of them will be lucky. BOTH will be lucky - because relatively common and because it's not like fuel but more like catalyst - but both will also get into some trouble which would prevent them from returning immediately. The finale including the answer to which expedition will return to Earth first will be part of last will of author. Funny is if you take into account that even aliens with better technology might only ASSUME and not really know how common intelligent life is ... That wasn't Greenpeace. They only liked the singing. Also were stupid enough to assume two is genetically diverse enough to preserve population.
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pinup Pinup, Single, Mall-Goth Elliot, Wed March 29 2017
hkmaly replied to mlooney's topic in EGS Sketchbook Discussion
Another reason may be that I left that post in edit mode, for reasons I'm sure made sense at the time, or I forgot to push the save button. What likely happened was that you copy&pasted part of Grammarly markup into the post text (maybe when copying the quote) and send it to server.- 40 replies
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It's not like the US doesn't talk with the other nuclear powers. In terms of numbers there's the US, Russia and everybody else in the margins. With only 2 major players, there's minimal duplication of effort possible even if there is no coordination between the players at all. China. By allowing to install the neutronium inside without tearing the core? Or maybe you don't need the exotic matter itself, just that every person who understand neutronium is already employed by exotic matter industries. The question is how the information gets the remaining 4950 light years back to the aliens. Unless the probe is going to invade earth by itself, the information isn't going to do the aliens any good until it gets back to them and they're still 5000 light years away. If the probe can only send the information back using normal lightspeed communications, the aliens do not get information on Earth's condition any faster than it's coming to them anyway. That's where quantum-entanglement communication would come in. With quantum entanglement, the alien race is seeing what the probe sees as the probe sees it. Now the only problem is how to get them 5000 LY to Earth. Yes, I was thinking about probe with FTL communication (it may even be slower than quantum entanglement, just 1000c would suffice). Yes, that sounds like good topic for book or several: war between technologically advanced aliens with little or no military training versus top earth strategists. Here where the replicators came in. Well, sure, even the data space might be used for something else, like another season of their longest soap opera, but captain had relatives in congress and they insisted of taking weapons. Not that captain was that afraid, she just hated that soap opera. Just one of them. It's very likely that the other three would be aborted by the first one anyway.
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pinup Pinup, Single, Mall-Goth Elliot, Wed March 29 2017
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I don't see any censorship. Wait ... when I look into source code, there is some "data-grammarly-reactid" inside the quote ... that may be it.- 40 replies
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It's true that US has lot of almost empty space. In Europe, the cities (and industries) are much more packed. There are rumors Egypt has nuclear weapon program. No matter if true, someone might decide it's worth few nukes. I agree with South America and rest of Africa. Something over three billion years ago? Unless we are dealing with something like in Turtledove's short story "The Road not Taken" where discovering FTL tends to cause civilizations to stop advancing, so the Aliens had black powder weapons against automatic rifles. Discovering FTL TOO SOON. But yes ... even in less extreme cases than the ones described in that story (according to wikipedia), there is possibility of meeting aliens with unbalanced (compared to us) technology for various reasons. With single exception: with FTL technology, you CERTAINLY can use kinetic weapons (asteroids). This may actually explain the "discovering FTL very soon": what if you can LITERALLY find negative-mass matter on most planets but someone stolen ours? Optimized for attack. Not optimized when you admit enemy will fire as well. If one country launch their nukes, at least two countries would respond, and both would counterattack on very similar list of targets. Some neutronium would work just fine for increasing Mars' gravity. I would guesstimate about the same amount as Mars' current mass. I don't know if that's "exotic matter" by your definition. I was attempting to quote something ... "exotic matter industry" was industry dealing with not only producing exotic matter, but also using it to control small singularities (black holes) and wormholes. Exotic matter is usually matter with negative mass. I didn't said we can't, I just said bigger planets are easier to find so logically we find more of them. But I must admit I'm not doing my own statistics. What about automatic probes with detection equipment spread around? THEY may be 5000 light years away but the closest probe might happen to be just 50 light years from Earth ... Or delivering upgraded weapons ... but yes, invasion which would take multiple centuries to get here would be at serious disadvantage. I think there are several human commanders which, even planing colonization attempt, would pack lot of weapons "just in case". Especially if they have some replicator technology and packing weapons is just matter of having the files and energy to replicate them. Note however, that colonization attempt would at least mean they won't target us because of Jar Jar. They may be convinced to call off the invasion if it wasn't supposed to be invasion from start. I suddenly have this mental image of Earth being invaded by alien Greenpeace activists who curb stomp us to save the environment. That actually makes sense. They are not interested in us, but diverse ecosystem not yet devastated by industry ... well, ok, partially devastated, but in much better shape than theirs, because their industry had more time to devastate it before they finally developed the FTL technology.
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pinup Pinup, Single, Mall-Goth Elliot, Wed March 29 2017
hkmaly replied to mlooney's topic in EGS Sketchbook Discussion
I really like the image but I really don't like the story. Seems like too strong personality change to me ...- 40 replies
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It might be little stretch calling what Fox wears French maid outfit. However, it's likely closest to it from what Nanase has. The lust object part, meanwhile, is almost confirmed in the comment by how unconvincingly Dan denies it. Although Nanase might not actually do it for that reason ... yet. I think she's preparing/rehearsing something for Ellen. And yes, this strip was reason why I suggested Nanase as target for blame this time.
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True, there is this risk as well. We can't really compare if our speed of technological progress is better or worse than average. We can meet aliens which would be so surprised by our technology they wouldn't close their mouths until after WE conquer THEIR home planet ... or aliens who will do mistakes hurrying here out of fear we will match their technology level before they get here. ... or, we may get aliens who are able to predict EXACTLY how fast we invent things. The first transmission we catch on the first prototype of FTL radio will start "-mly welcome the civilization of planet Earth to our communication network." ... ok, they did get it few seconds wrong. This reminds me the novel where aliens arrived on planet just days before it's sun explosion hoping they can save someone and was surprised noone is home. They later found that despite their primitive technology, natives build fleet of slow generation spaceships and evacuated on them. The alien commander was able to find the direction they flied, easily caught up and started first contact, despite his second of command joking that they should be careful with this determined species as their galactic republic outnumber them only like twenty billions to one. Just twenty years later, that note was no longer funny. Let me guess. One of the non native civilizations is a group called "Men" who were apparently from a planet the Earthlings called "Mars". And the other civilization is a group called "Women" from a place called "Venus". I was thinking actual three different spaceflight capable civilizations meeting on Earth, but your idea isn't bad either. Except the aliens would need to be very stupid or very sloppy in Venus observation to believe anyone looking remotely human lives there.
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Also, did Susan really considered chance of success of that plan or did she rejected because of not being cool enough? Standard procedure. But Tedd isn't supposed to be in this story line. Neither is Nanase, who could be good target for blame in this case as well.
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This is again about how similar they are. If their biosphere is incompatible, removing ours with bombardment would be safer than hoping they can modify it before some pathogen adapts to them. If they are compatible or close, they might actually be able to use their biochemistry knowledge to engineer such bioweapon. That's assuming they haven't been watching from somewhere nearby for the past couple decades. Of course. If they have cloaking devices or are careful and willing to risk, they may be watching from close. But ... exactly how much effort they are going to put into such project? It's likely they would want to have some idea about our civilization BEFORE spending resources to sending some probe or ship here. Unless they have cheap FTL engine and rotate big teams of experts every three months (their months, not ours) because we somehow happen to be most interesting civilization in galaxy which I somehow doubt ... That would make it easy for aliens to blend in. Alien commander: What do you have to report on the natives, scout? Scout: I apparently won first place in something called a cosplay competition, sir. Unlikely. Maybe second place. That's assuming StarTrek scenarists were able to guess much better than expected ... or had outside info. On the other hand, aliens would certainly need to try very hard to count how many actual alien civilization visited the Con. "The mission on Earth was success ; we made first contact with two different civilizations. Neither of them turned to be native there but I'm sure we can make contact with Earthlings later." That's awfully wasteful. Bury it. Nevada has salt mines perfect for this. You could almost just make a big pile out in the Sahara desert and cover it with a really big tarp. Aliens with the ability to move an invasion force across space might have other technological advantages that would be capable of sorting the radioactives out of the soil. They may also have different regulations for radioactivity and be not willing to risk underground water contamination or something similar as much as we do. Those tend to be on more places than expected. Especially considering the "military assets" are build on separate locations PRECISELY to make sure it will be hard for enemy to hit all of them at once. And the nuclear arsenal is not exactly optimized, even after several attempts to disarmament we have much more nukes than needed. I don't have access to real strategic plans for nuclear war, but I wouldn't count on anything in Europe or North America to be safe. Some parts of Asia and probably Africa may survive, yes ... Impacts on Mars and Earth might seem too coincidental. Not so much. The idea is to send one swarm of projectiles hitting both, not two obviously separate asteroids. Also ... even if it would seem too coincidental, what do you think we will do with that information? Unless they already have exotic matter industry and can afford to install singularity into Mars core I think that main reason we are finding bigger exoplanets is that bigger exoplanets are easier to find. If the aliens have done their homework, they would know that a few impacts in the right places could destroy the human's food supply and get them fighting among themselves. If they REALLY done their homework, they would know that impact on Jerusalem on 25th December will start religious wars. That may be easier strategy: they can likely generate strong EMP bursts more effectively than we do and cripple most of our technology without any nuclear fallout, AND they don't even need to know that much about us, just looking at how much junk we have in orbits will tell them enough to consider this strategy. If they have FTL engine, they probably have other technology capable of defeating us easily. If they don't, it means it took them centuries to get here ; getting impatient now is improbable and would be sign of very bad planning. In fact, most likely, they are going to send automatic ships before the ones with themselves, and those automatic ships will launch attack in the time window created by fact automatic ship can accelerate faster than ships with crew. ... not speaking about the possibility to launch attack in time window obtained by NOT DECELERATING. If they accelerate to 0.5c to get here fast, anything which they WONT bother slowing down (like ... empty fuel tanks) would be much more effective than any asteroid AND will arrive months if not years before the invasion force. If they would be able to aim it good enough ... Or, if we consider the EMP plan, again, it's likely possible to fire the EMP pulse from something which is flying through our solar system in high speed ; you need to almost stop to start invasion.
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Actually, Larry was only willing to learn after VERY strong wake-up call. Lot of "Larrys" never got such call. Luckily there are people who became willing to learn easier.
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They send a few teenagers to make crop circles, tip cattle, and go joyriding with whatever poor schlubs with no witnesses they can find. While the conspiracy theorists are busy with all that, they go to the conspiracy theorists' mothers' homes and convince them they should throw out any boxes that haven't been opened in over a year. Then they just pick up the boxes that contain the conspiracy theorists' comic book collections. That sound like good strategy. In fact, it sounds like so good strategy they don't need invasion. The radiation to stop being radioactive. What, you want to lift all that to orbit and transfer somewhere else? IMHO even the "standard" nuclear war will irradiate most of Earth. It will still have magnetic field, that's true. It might actually be good strategy to send the asteroids both to Mars and Earth. First, it will create diversion. Second, why not start both terraforming projects at same time? And, actually, for someone capable of moving between stars, sending few asteroids might look much simpler than landing and starting invasion. It might even require less energy if they plan to return the invasion force to orbit eventually.
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If they have counterfeiting laws even nearly as strict as those we have in Denmark, copied issues of Action Comics #1 would be no good. They would just land the forgers in jail. Either you present the cashier with the actual comic or you can go look for groceries elsewhere. ... how many astronauts did Denmark got on Moon? (It's true that counterfeiting laws makes more sense than disallowing copying completely. On the other hand ... how exactly would ANY original of Earth's comic got on different planet before the invasion?)
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Aliens would have to already be interested in something approximating our planet's chemistry and temperature or they'd just move on and leave us alone. Whatever humans may have done to the Earth, it ought to be trivial for aliens who want to make Earth their home. A little CO2 here, some landfills there...Nothing compared to terraforming Venus or Mars. Venus and Mars are unlikely to be their only other alternatives. And terraforming Earth AFTER we fire our nuclear weapons might easily take longer than Mars. Let's see ... gold is one of the least reactive chemical elements, resistant to most acids. It's extremely malleable, you can make very thin wire from it. In fact, you can make so thin leaf from it it's semi-transparent. It's also third most conductive metal (after silver and copper, and copper corrodes). Even if we didn't like it, it would still has many uses in electronics. I'm pretty sure species (or nation) which is unable to realize that information can be copied for free can't be advanced enough to leave orbit of their home planet. Take US for example: It wasn't able to send astronaut to Moon since prolonging the copyright from 28 years to 50 years after author death.
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It's not much different than anything else that a person can take interest in. It certainly depends on the person though, some may always get enjoyment out of something, but others after a while might decide it's not doing it for them anymore and look for something new. I don't think I stopped enjoying anything I used to enjoy. Although it's true that there are things I abandoned for something with higher ratio of enjoyment to time. Like, most of TV. Or westerns. Why not both? (Also, I'm pretty sure BDSM as term was deliberately widened to raise society acceptance to some more extreme parts of it. That, or the BDSM scope is more slippery than I though.)
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I would expect they would be able to recognize the fact that there are hostilities between several countries and even civil unrest, and if they've been watching us for some time, they should have a decent idea about the geopolitical landscape. Remember: they wouldn't be able to watch what is actually happening - not in usable resolution at least. They will only have the broadcasts, and likely in bad quality, full of noise and/or errors. They may have like 10 minutes of something and lack the part before which could hint that it's fiction and/or history. And then another 10 minutes from something else. And another ... Of course that's more than enough to recognize there are (or recently were) hostilities between several countries, but may not be enough to get list of those countries or to put the geopolitical map together. I would count all of that as "boosting ego". With the amount of carbon dioxide in atmosphere and all those landfills and ... unless they like that, of course ... why am I tinking of this for your description : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tripods Considering the deadly disadvantage of "...completely incapable of lying, finding it difficult to tell the difference between a novel and a biography. As such they are extremely gullible, taking everything told to them as indisputable truth." I'm surprised they took so long.
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... are you implying fetishes can't last?
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There are plenty of other things being broadcast that may make extra terrestrials want to exterminate us, I'd say more, but the politics thread is locked at the moment. Extra terrestrials would probably not understand our politics anyway. Or they may fail to distinguish between real politics, Galactic Senate on Coruscant, Imperial Court of Padishah Emperors and Seven Kingdoms of Westeros. Viruses basically-certainly would not be able to, being so reliant on the intricacies of cell function and the genome, hence e.g. bacteriophages cannot directly harm eukaryotes. So we're thinking bacteria, fungi, … which would not (initially) be adapted to parasitising the extraterrestrial life, but the extraterrestrial life would not be adapted or immunised against them [the microorganisms] colonising them [the extraterrestrials] and potentially causing harm either. Yes: the more specifically something is adapted, the less dangerous it will likely be - but some bacteria are rather generic. Something generally harmless for us can be deadly for them. Putrefying bacteria comes to mind.
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The whole backstory seems convoluted really, and maybe best explained by video: If THIS is the BEST explanation, it's not worth trying to find out WTF. Right. Just about any inorganic material and most simple organic molecules (such as hydrocarbons) can be readily acquired from a lifeless planet, moon, comet, or asteroid. Lifeless, unarmed and with MUCH shallower gravitation well. It's extremely unlikely anything more complicated that the organic molecules from comets would be useful for you. Of course, you may be able to process simple stuff like sugar (with 50% probability actually) or alcohol, but those ARE on comets. Proteins? Fats? No. And sugar will NOT be worth it if you need to get it from gravity well of Earth. Of course, in most sci-fi, aliens are not only able to process each other food, they can actually like the taste (making luxury food possibility); they can also have sex and children with humans. ... ok, that may work. However, you need to be VERY careful about decontamination. Local microbes PROBABLY wouldn't be able to infect you, but ... there will be lot of them. One might be lucky. And the reason to subjugate is probably to boost your ego, because you likely have robotics advanced enough you don't need them as slave workers. There is another option: research. Aliens might be interested in our biosphere because comparing it to their own will help them understand both. ... considering they invaded inhabited planet for that, the goal for that research is likely biological weapon. Actually, maybe they are attacking us just because they want to test their strategy and weapons before attacking that other species which they really hate. Alternatively, as you already mentioned, they may actually hate us. Perhaps something we broadcasted was insulting to them. Like ... Jar Jar?
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What makes you think she KNOWS? She may just guessed correctly. The "Because he's Tedd" explanation that Elliot gave to Ellen in http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=673 probably indicates that both Elliot and Ellen are accustomed to the "Tedd likes to wear female forms" idea by this point, though Elliot couldn't understand what cooking had to do with being female precisely because he knew that gender stereotypes such as cooking mean bullcrap when talking about a person who can change between male and female bodies on demand. Hmmmm ... well it was something over one month, so there was likely some interaction between them we didn't see ... and possibly some event which helped Grace guess the initial reaction, because she doesn't seem to pay attention in the apron case.
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And the question of HOW can one of them be android in alternate universe is clearly answered: it's not CLOSE alternate universe, it's 100 years in future (the comic is happening in year 20XY, isn't it?) How did they answered the question why the robots are on earth there? Because that "natural resources" doesn't seem so likely to me, it seems we will deplete those far sooner.
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Pinup Magical Girl Tedd March 23 2017
hkmaly replied to mlooney's topic in EGS Sketchbook Discussion
YOU try to hit target while flying for first time. It doesn't seem so stressed to me, but if it is, it could easily be caused by inexperience with flying.- 35 replies