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And again, magical weapons Susan summoned from her chest were described as good for only one hit, and the Aberrations are especially vulnerable to them.  So, she can summon a sword, whack an aberration once with it, the sword vanishes but the aberration dies.  If there's another Aberration coming, she can summon that same sword again as soon as the first summoning vanishes, for as long as her summoning power holds out.  There's no damage done to the sword in the chest, so each summons is a new perfect undamaged replica.

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22 hours ago, CritterKeeper said:

And again, magical weapons Susan summoned from her chest were described as good for only one hit, and the Aberrations are especially vulnerable to them.  So, she can summon a sword, whack an aberration once with it, the sword vanishes but the aberration dies.  If there's another Aberration coming, she can summon that same sword again as soon as the first summoning vanishes, for as long as her summoning power holds out.  There's no damage done to the sword in the chest, so each summons is a new perfect undamaged replica.

The summoned replica might break even DURING the first hit. And her life might literally depend on it, so not good moment to risk. (Although it's true that IF she had no other option, it would affect fight with summoned weapon less than with physical replicas, so would be worth the try. But as we said, Susan CAN afford to buy real sword and considering she STILL has PTSD from her experience in France she's very likely to not be sloppy with such decision.)

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1 hour ago, hkmaly said:

The summoned replica might break even DURING the first hit. And her life might literally depend on it, so not good moment to risk. (Although it's true that IF she had no other option, it would affect fight with summoned weapon less than with physical replicas, so would be worth the try. But as we said, Susan CAN afford to buy real sword and considering she STILL has PTSD from her experience in France she's very likely to not be sloppy with such decision.)

I think we're in general agreement here, and just got side-tracked by debating possibilities rather than likely scenarios.  I'm sure Susan did get a good-quality sword, not a flimsy replica, but also not wasting time and money finding the top-of-the-line.  She'd go for something sturdy and reliable but not especially flashy or specialized.  I get the feeling Susan is in that range of wealth where she could probably get anything she really wants, but not everything she wants, if you get the distinction.  Plus, as her texting habits earlier showed, she's not one to waste money needlessly.

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9 hours ago, CritterKeeper said:

I think we're in general agreement here, and just got side-tracked by debating possibilities rather than likely scenarios.  I'm sure Susan did get a good-quality sword, not a flimsy replica, but also not wasting time and money finding the top-of-the-line.  She'd go for something sturdy and reliable but not especially flashy or specialized.  I get the feeling Susan is in that range of wealth where she could probably get anything she really wants, but not everything she wants, if you get the distinction.  Plus, as her texting habits earlier showed, she's not one to waste money needlessly.

I would imagine that Helena and Demetrius would have had solidly constructed weapons in the original chest for Susan to use, they probably created them themself so I doubt they'd be cheap replicas and yet their summons versions were only good for 1 good hit.

Mind you that was immediately after she was marked. We did see Susan using a summoned sword during the goo fight and she still had it after Grace did her thing, so it might be possible that as she used her magic more she was able to keep the summoned items longer. And after she awakened, it's possible her summoned weapons would be as durable if not more durable than their real versions.

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16 hours ago, CritterKeeper said:

I think we're in general agreement here, and just got side-tracked by debating possibilities rather than likely scenarios.

It did seem true to me as well.

16 hours ago, CritterKeeper said:

I'm sure Susan did get a good-quality sword, not a flimsy replica, but also not wasting time and money finding the top-of-the-line.  She'd go for something sturdy and reliable but not especially flashy or specialized.

She probably wasn't able to contact any of those almost-mythical sword makers who makes swords capable of breaking other swords. Ignoring those, there is sort of "standard quality", meaning the more expensive swords are not better in fight but only prettier or more historically accurate - and Susan doesn't need either (and is unlikely to pay for it when she doesn't need it).

17 hours ago, CritterKeeper said:

I get the feeling Susan is in that range of wealth where she could probably get anything she really wants, but not everything she wants, if you get the distinction.  Plus, as her texting habits earlier showed, she's not one to waste money needlessly.

I suspect she wouldn't be able to get airplane even if she really wanted but otherwise yes on both.

And given her working in video rental store, she seem to also trying to get independent. Her own wealth is probably not so big, but if she needs something more expensive she can always ask mom.

7 hours ago, Scotty said:

I would imagine that Helena and Demetrius would have had solidly constructed weapons in the original chest for Susan to use, they probably created them themself

... I don't think so, although they might empowered and guide someone to make them. I would think those are OLD weapons. Possibly original Damascus steel, even.

7 hours ago, Scotty said:

I doubt they'd be cheap replicas and yet their summons versions were only good for 1 good hit.

The "only good for 1 good hit" is definitely limit of the summoning spell, yes. IMHO unlike sword, it would need special "talent" to make a mace which wouldn't be able to make more than one hit.

7 hours ago, Scotty said:

Mind you that was immediately after she was marked. We did see Susan using a summoned sword during the goo fight and she still had it after Grace did her thing, so it might be possible that as she used her magic more she was able to keep the summoned items longer. And after she awakened, it's possible her summoned weapons would be as durable if not more durable than their real versions.

She MIGHT re-summon it. In fact she probably did, as I don't think the mark spell COULD change (or the goo was so gooish/mushy it didn't counted as hit). However, I agree that after awakening, she could easily get durability upgrade. Note the aura thing: depending on how confusingly the spellbook was written, enhanced durability may be sideeffect or even main effect of the aura.

 

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On 9/19/2017 at 10:08 AM, Scotty said:

I would imagine that Helena and Demetrius would have had solidly constructed weapons in the original chest for Susan to use, they probably created them themself so I doubt they'd be cheap replicas and yet their summons versions were only good for 1 good hit.

Mind you that was immediately after she was marked. We did see Susan using a summoned sword during the goo fight and she still had it after Grace did her thing, so it might be possible that as she used her magic more she was able to keep the summoned items longer. And after she awakened, it's possible her summoned weapons would be as durable if not more durable than their real versions.

She may have re-summoned it multiple times, or the goo may have parted around the sword so there was no real impact.

On 9/19/2017 at 6:07 PM, hkmaly said:

 there is sort of "standard quality", meaning the more expensive swords are not better in fight but only prettier or more historically accurate - and Susan doesn't need either (and is unlikely to pay for it when she doesn't need it).

Not much point to having an extra-durable sword when it's going to disappear after one good hit.  Sharpness might count, but again, if it's against an Aberration, then they're more vulnerable to magical weapons, so it probably doesn't have to be all that sharp.

On 9/19/2017 at 6:07 PM, hkmaly said:

I suspect she wouldn't be able to get airplane even if she really wanted but otherwise yes on both.

*googles*  Hmm, you can get an airplane for $15,000, and a trip to France with Road Scholar is about $5000.  If her mom could send her to France on a whim, then I'd say that if Susan really wanted to get a plane, and the flying lessons to go with it, then her mom could manage it.  Might mean that that would be the only thing she'd get for Christmas and birthday for a few years....or it might not.

On 9/19/2017 at 6:07 PM, hkmaly said:

And given her working in video rental store, she seem to also trying to get independent. Her own wealth is probably not so big, but if she needs something more expensive she can always ask mom.

Yes, I definitely think Susan working at the video store is her own idea, seeking some independence and a sense of being more normal.  Of course, kids who grow up never having to go without dental care, cutting slits in their sneakers so they can wear them a bit longer when their feet got too big, or eating ketchup sandwiches, will probably never really know what it's like to start from nothing.  Susan has a huge head start even if she does earn her own money for an apartment or spending money or whatever.  And that's the way it should be, it's just a sad reality that it isn't so for everyone.

On 9/19/2017 at 6:07 PM, hkmaly said:

... I don't think so, although they might empowered and guide someone to make them. I would think those are OLD weapons. Possibly original Damascus steel, even.

I doubt Susan was able to bring back a sword in her luggage.  She probably had to start over filling a new chest after she got home.

On 9/19/2017 at 6:07 PM, hkmaly said:

I don't think the mark spell COULD change

That's a good question.  Do we have any evidence of a Mark-based spell changing before the caster Awoke and lost the Mark?

 

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